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From: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
To: Dimitri Fontaine <dim@tapoueh.org>
Cc: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:08:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m38vwusl6u.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2lj0usm8m.fsf@tapoueh.org> (Dimitri Fontaine's message of "Fri,  04 Mar 2011 20:45:45 +0100")

Dimitri> What el-get currently does not do is editing any user's file.  What's
Dimitri> proposed in this thread is a way for el-get to bootstrap itself in a
Dimitri> user's setup without having to edit the user's init file.

Yes, my proposal accomplishes that.  There are two problems here.

The first problem is, how does the user ever get el-get.el?
Do they download it from a web site?  Do you have some installer elisp
on a web site to eval (this is what I did with ELPA)?  Etc.

Whatever the answer is to that problem, there is a similar
package.el-based answer.

E.g., if you have some elisp on your web site to download and install
el-get.el, just write different elisp (untested):

(let ((buffer (url-retrieve-synchronously "the url/el-get.el")))
  (with-current-buffer buffer
    ;; strip the headers
    (re-search-forward "^$" nil 'move)
    (forward-char)
    (delete-region (point-min) (point))
    (package-install-from-buffer (package-buffer-info) 'single))
  (kill-buffer buffer))

If users just download your file by hand, then they just do that and
then M-x package-install-file.


The second problem is, how does el-get.el get activated?

If el-get.el is an ordinary package, in the package.el sense, then in
Emacs 24 it will just work with zero changes to the user's init file.
Autoloads will be extracted, etc.  You can make it do any
el-get-specific activation quite easily using an autoload comment.

Tom



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-04 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-01 20:32 user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-03 21:07 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04  9:55   ` Julien Danjou
2011-03-04 17:18     ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 18:04       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-04 18:37       ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 19:35         ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 19:45           ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 19:54             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-04 20:21               ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 20:25               ` Chad Brown
2011-03-04 20:46                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-05 19:24                   ` Chad Brown
2011-03-04 20:26               ` Chad Brown
2011-03-04 20:08             ` Tom Tromey [this message]
2011-03-04 20:24               ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 21:17                 ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 21:33                   ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 21:37                     ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-05  3:18                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-05 19:11                       ` Chad Brown
2011-03-06  7:21                       ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-07 16:24                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-07 17:18                           ` Chad Brown
2011-03-07 17:59                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 17:36                             ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-08 18:30                               ` Chad Brown
2011-03-07 17:52                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-07 20:39                             ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-08  2:46                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08 10:26                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 17:14                                   ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-08 18:47                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 19:23                                       ` Julien Danjou
2011-03-09  2:54                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-09 19:57                                           ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-08 20:59                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08 21:38                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09  7:06                                       ` Jan D.
2011-03-09  7:17                                         ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-03-09 10:01                                           ` Jan Djärv
2011-03-09 15:42                                             ` `custom-file' and init-file [was: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir] Drew Adams
2011-03-09 17:54                                               ` `custom-file' and init-file Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 21:19                                               ` `custom-file' and init-file [was: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir] Evans Winner
2011-03-09 21:39                                                 ` `custom-file' and init-file [was: user-controlled load-pathextension: load-dir] Drew Adams
2011-03-10  2:52                                                 ` `custom-file' and init-file [was: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir] Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 17:29                                             ` user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 18:18                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 19:33                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 19:57                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  3:20                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-10  5:01                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  7:08                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-10 13:15                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-11  2:10                                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 21:57                                         ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-10  7:08                                           ` Jan Djärv
2011-03-09  6:03                                   ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-09  7:20                                     ` Jan D.
2011-03-09 23:44                                       ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-08  0:47                           ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-08 10:37                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09  6:26                               ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-09 11:26                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-03-08  7:14 Ben Key
2011-03-08  9:58 ` Evans Winner
2011-03-08 18:49   ` PJ Weisberg
     [not found] <AANLkTin1zXJQo2vsju7kpa31Nw568m_eNZS+gJ6g2tQO@mail.gmail.com>
2011-03-08 18:49 ` Ben Key
2011-03-08 20:01   ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-08 20:25     ` Chad Brown
2011-03-08 20:38       ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-08 22:40         ` Chad Brown
2011-03-09  9:36           ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-09 11:52             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 22:57     ` Ben Key
2011-03-09  3:28       ` Ben Key
2011-03-09  6:50         ` Ben Key
2011-03-09  7:29           ` Jan D.
2011-03-09 16:00             ` Ben Key
2011-03-09 11:39           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 19:51       ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-09 20:08         ` Ben Key
2011-03-09 20:18         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 20:32           ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-09 20:44             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10 11:30             ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 14:27               ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-10 17:23                 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 18:33                   ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-10 18:56                     ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-10 19:32                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-10 20:30                       ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 21:54                         ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-11  8:43                           ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 19:36                     ` Jambunathan K
2011-03-11 15:00               ` chad
2011-03-11 17:41                 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-12  5:51                   ` chad
2011-03-12 10:09                     ` Jan Djärv
2011-03-11 18:51                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-16 14:16             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-16 15:43               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 20:08                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17  2:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17  3:34                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17  4:42                       ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-16 20:11               ` Evans Winner
2011-03-16 20:23                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  2:21         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17  4:22 Ben Key
2011-03-17  6:31 ` Evans Winner
2011-03-17 10:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 20:11   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17 21:01     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 21:05       ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-17 21:23         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 22:50           ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-18  2:46             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-18 10:56               ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-18 13:07                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-18  2:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-19  4:10 Ben Key
2011-03-19 13:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-19 16:07   ` Ben Key
2011-03-19 14:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-20  2:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-20 12:05   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-23 15:32     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-23 20:33       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-24  0:03 Ben Key
2011-03-24 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-26 11:37   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-02 18:35     ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-04  9:54       ` Ted Zlatanov

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