From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Overlay arrow in *compilation* and *grep* buffers Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 00:20:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: <01c548ba$Blat.v2.4$e4827900@zahav.net.il> <01c54909$Blat.v2.4$070f3e60@zahav.net.il> <01c54c2b$Blat.v2.4$e15e8560@zahav.net.il> <17009.19855.763603.487800@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <01c54c8a$Blat.v2.4$6afa17e0@zahav.net.il> <17009.62951.957607.360268@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <87oebkw22l.fsf@jurta.org> <17027.16429.215672.493633@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <87is1nlnt1.fsf@jurta.org> <01c55782$Blat.v2.4$4616ee00@zahav.net.il> <17028.21709.35999.263715@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <01c557bf$Blat.v2.4$d25541e0@zahav.net.il> <01c55855$Blat.v2.4$1e630f00@zahav.net.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1116109849 16961 80.91.229.2 (14 May 2005 22:30:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 15 00:30:45 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DX59R-0000Vz-TE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 May 2005 00:30:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DX5B8-00023f-Jj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 May 2005 18:32:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DX58f-00012A-OY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 May 2005 18:29:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DX58c-00010D-MZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 May 2005 18:29:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DX58c-0000ut-58 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 May 2005 18:29:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.235] (helo=pfepa.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DX56U-0005hl-UR; Sat, 14 May 2005 18:27:27 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepa.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 8532B47FE3F; Sun, 15 May 2005 00:19:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <01c55855$Blat.v2.4$1e630f00@zahav.net.il> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 14 May 2005 10:17:22 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:37146 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:37146 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: >> From: Richard Stallman >> CC: nickrob@snap.net.nz, juri@jurta.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 20:26:10 -0400 >> >> Now is the right time to make some kinds of changes, those that correct >> annoyances and wrinkles in the features we have added. > > We clearly disagree on this. I think that this is precisely the > reason why today, months since feature freeze, we have a less stable > Emacs than we had then. I mostly agree with Eli, but we should try to fix problems with the new features added since 21.4 -- once 22.1 is out, it may be too late to get things right. But at this stage, if people had respected the feature freeze, the new features in 22.1 would have stabilized by now ... it's the constant addition of "tiny" things that keep messing things up and postponing the release (e.g. the comment font lock thing). -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk