From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Network security manager Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:54:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <85a93pj1n5.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87sihg7r73.fsf@alrua-karlstad.karlstad.toke.dk> <87a93oilxl.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87oas4h555.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87a93oh180.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83h9xw9zg3.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416333340 23862 80.91.229.3 (18 Nov 2014 17:55:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 18 18:55:34 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xqn01-0004WG-FS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:55:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54570 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xqn01-0000Pb-1b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 12:55:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43769) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xqmze-0000PR-T8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 12:55:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqmzZ-0000nc-DP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 12:55:10 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:53075) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqmzZ-0000ic-7l; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 12:55:05 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XqmzE-00032Q-VA; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:54:45 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEWkb2iKfqC7qK+EFwmy UzKtNRbH67YOAAACS0lEQVQ4jU2TTXLDIAyFBXH3ltMDGJoDOKOwp7bYt2O4/1X6hJ2kLDwefTx4 +oGktaY5TjOzmybmKTCPzExXxLH8NMUwzQ7AjYx/mquWTUR5phgDVNjdwahaRJIyESTMceoo0EN1 T3vNtJC3raDRCOEk0apZRDZ3BegrBFKVVItuorssHJ8LYEsNANc/9sW28qEi3FDh9orPlhDgp6Js SOQ7TAbEDB8CmP9ora7zDHdqkRN8EQOU6r9a1dXiIZ6KEQJsHqwsgV9rJAVoBltbYyfxAAi2/YDR x7cEADm3vZaWb/oGVztqN1VJftD1eYvzKIkWdKTVn1k1v67vAIEIx/E/EKrenNKA7FDkf+AxH6I1 zqWq69E4maL0Wxrq+QI8TQAIAyQdstaBCONwA75bgukwlkm/CVNCAyrgqexiomLDdcsOVeRPj8ZT srkqbWvVWyI998+wOOKG2y31DFtoCTqFqXKB2A5CDXWdbyew4jK5amZx3hqHZul0v5e7mbe4tVeb 1+aCTbW4N0ATS2z1+6gI8tAnyKjXR089MBT1BCAoWjlrIkz5BDa/qvVZ3EB0Ckp/P78neATyB5AO Gk6yURmXF8DQ4YZ6Ts94B+jpYSDQmLLaI7MZgat8KlLDj4YOlgvA4wWszGvPYpA7U8JLkvQPjDSK AVGMotnqIM9s3RXXwS44/1BgGsi5sQM4SvXWAQg6J3IRAkiwuj5BxgzAkyjRbhFf8K14W7qkOo4X 2QBwViUDbYBYfrNcHiJESVKqAyZOfi6glpxWkfAH6nXXIJhBst0AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Talking Heads's _Once In A Lifetime (2)_: "Crosseyed And Painless" X-Hashcash: 1:23:141118:emacs-devel@gnu.org::5rk74xp4v9HieNkW:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000Naww X-Hashcash: 1:23:141118:eliz@gnu.org::bRacTOPCeTG+kgrH:00001B37A In-Reply-To: <83h9xw9zg3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:43:40 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.51 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1XqmzE-00032Q-VA MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1416938085.04868@GWj/iq4MY6POX/1M2VMCHA X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177611 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen >> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:28:26 +0100 >> >> shr should really insert "broken image" markers into the buffers (and >> "loading images"), and then the user could just hit RET on one of the >> broken images and then get queried about the certificate >> interactively... > > Do that, and you've added one more reason for me to disable the whole > darn thing right away. I meant that generally for all images it can't download, for one reason or other. > I mean, how much annoyance should one endure to be "secure"? is there > any limit? That was my question. Do we care about the verifiability (is that a word?) of the servers where images come from? I certainly don't, so my vote would be to disable these checks in shr for images. >> Which reminds me: We need a way to determine that Emacs is running >> non-interactively as well as being run from an async context. What's >> the way to do that? > > It's in the manual, I'd say. Do you know where? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no