From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: STARTTLS for erc Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:04:38 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309021887 21864 80.91.229.12 (25 Jun 2011 17:11:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:11:27 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 25 19:11:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QaWOB-0000BX-66 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:11:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54236 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaWOA-0003qZ-Au for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:11:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54934) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaWHt-0002mQ-18 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:04:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaWHr-0002gp-4m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:04:52 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:42592) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaWHq-0002gf-NX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:04:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QaWHp-0005wj-AV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:04:49 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:04:49 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:04:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 12 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEUuIhtpTCzbwZUGAwYV Dg5ENSMbGGRVAAACRElEQVQ4jU2UwY7jIAyGnS3c43S4b9DmXgkegFHcO8zU7/8q+9ukO4uqCvFh /7axQ0IUtz2U2lSjKmEFwaJAceRjAhBaO5GSBANbTrdSKUZDvKSe8CMhBThLAWBNnZn7ij9qNHI+ ABoBqPaoIRI0GnHOazEweIW3ZQzGDWqQyB8GInOaQJM2Mk/5G6Au8AzQ1QOm+JXzfhqIe84m0qmH 4DG5NgB2SWeOTdzT72Krma2ZePYOXhPY9gIhEOzzrTpYsvtKbkDZJOo/kUOnTTOwniKlSPUATV4v 8KotnFVO17tAANhDi2qgRfM7PJUXwIEqaZAWHpbT7haxA6xP2+PRXMR8eSaQeOoYA+UpVujMVyqQ iDpYe7hV0vyTPCQc0PMuQ6+AoU55bYOpiyx3ehlwXwh4f8XRCV0yhGqPE5hFQtsEOoswxdatKvuM 6+MR8Y4iLfF4Bpq+rI7fQt0q8skb06wKu8XZAGgtC+c1zKrsDqyf2pLC2HZm9MCsSnSgoeN+Zs4s LuLvjkuMB+YNPYIGc1/JQKNlPx9kz2pg+rKStLjwWdsF/lTvFbQWUFyRxRsUsZ33FrL4AR+Yk0sk JjGwvUGRL+sVswhShf8DvywTogcJ5g+N7uCO/nqaL6LafDbasr1BnaB4E0qR8QYFvg6AMkGxlDMi l/LwF3QgMHtayoz589UvC/w+t8zpOt7yOgFqgtEHuY4xSxMUaSPZyW5xW+THBWpUv7tfvhifDFun xDQ6xt+71h6pEA4NSMDIx+5fJDsofwHl8bmKnaLXJwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Kate Bush's _Lionheart_: "Don't Push Your Foot On" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:rVAiiaqvTD/mel5zb557dtUKS98= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140966 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > A protocol where sending a password is "necessary" is basically > incompatible with STARTTLS anyway (otherwise, it's trivial to force the > password to be sent in the clear). I don't quite follow you. With pop3, for instance, a password is necessary, and STARTTLS works perfectly fine for pop3... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/