From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pavel@Janik.cz (Pavel =?iso-8859-2?q?Jan=EDk?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Localization: keyboards and messages (Re: across terminals) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:29:57 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019761422 5205 127.0.0.1 (25 Apr 2002 19:03:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 19:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Richard Stallman , PPAATT@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 170oWr-0001Lq-00 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:03:41 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 170oZ9-0001HA-00 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:06:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 170oWX-0002Cm-00; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:03:21 -0400 Original-Received: from p0639.as-l043.contactel.cz ([194.108.244.131] helo=SnowWhite.SuSE.cz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 170oUs-00024c-00; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:01:40 -0400 Original-Received: by SnowWhite.SuSE.cz (PJ, from userid 500) id 79455183D7; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:04:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Karl Eichwalder X-Face: $"d&^B_IKlTHX!y2d,3;grhwjOBqOli]LV`6d]58%5'x/kBd7.MO&n3bJ@Zkf&RfBu|^qL+ ?/Re{MpTqanXS2'~Qp'J2p^M7uM:zp[1Xq#{|C!*'&NvCC[9!|=>#qHqIhroq_S"MH8nSH+d^9*BF: iHiAs(t(~b#1.{w.d[=Z In-Reply-To: (Karl Eichwalder's message of "Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:04:04 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.2.50 (i386-suse-linux-gnu) Original-Lines: 24 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3268 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3268 From: Karl Eichwalder Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:04:04 +0200 > Yes. Doing localization (L10N) properly would mean a lot of key > re-assignments (that's why I use US keyboards only). >=20 > Before re-mapping keys lets solve the message translation problem firs= t. Yes, I agree with Karl. Message/text translation is in my opinion the most wanted feature. We do not have to do the translations, we should only provide infrastructure. I do not know what is the situation in other countries, but here in CZ we have many people who are ready to start translating pieces of texts from Emacs to Czech. They are only waiting to have the possibility to start... What other developers think about this? I think we should coordinate the work on this with people from XEmacs team. --=20 Pavel Jan=EDk Choose a data representation that makes the program simple. -- The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugh= er)