From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Menu suggestion Date: 27 Apr 2004 13:05:50 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1083057254 15458 80.91.224.253 (27 Apr 2004 09:14:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 27 11:14:08 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BIOfH-0005Au-00 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:14:07 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BIOfH-0002Xk-00 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:14:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BIOed-0002dS-DE for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:13:27 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BIOeX-0002aj-7q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:13:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BIOe0-0002Kc-BA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:13:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.88.64.25] (helo=mail-relay.sonofon.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BIOdz-0002K9-Pf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:12:47 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 12675 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2004 09:06:05 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk) (213.83.150.2) by 0 with SMTP; 27 Apr 2004 09:06:05 -0000 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22221 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22221 Richard Stallman writes: > Yes, the arrow keys (which the user already knows how to operate) are > supported, so why waste time on learning the user something in the > tutorial which he will - at best - just find obscure, and - at worst - > turn him off from learning emacs at all. > > The Emacs cursor motion keys are essential to efficient editing. > People who use the arrow keys will never get good at it. You may be right, but I have managed using emacs quite efficiently without using those bindings for 20 years... And I use CUA mode too. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk