From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.] Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:07:46 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1096291271.415813c757a26@imp6-q.free.fr> <20040927134714.GA20012@fencepost> <87hdphx91c.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <87655wswkv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <871xgejdk7.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <874ql9i60e.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <87y8ildw10.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <87is9pdvuf.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097050488 11624 80.91.229.6 (6 Oct 2004 08:14:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Francesco Potorti` , rms@gnu.org, Jerome Marant , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 06 10:14:36 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CF6wW-00036Q-00 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:14:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CF73C-0001v3-B9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:21:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CF732-0001rD-BG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:21:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CF731-0001qc-Qk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:21:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CF731-0001qS-L7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:21:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.88.64.25] (helo=mail-relay.sonofon.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CF6wI-0007ZE-HL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:14:22 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 86208 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2004 08:07:40 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk) (213.83.150.2) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Oct 2004 08:07:40 -0000 Original-To: Rob Browning In-Reply-To: <87is9pdvuf.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> (Rob Browning's message of "Tue, 05 Oct 2004 10:32:24 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27985 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27985 Rob Browning writes: > Rob Browning writes: > >> The only plea I'd like to make is that if possible, Emacs use some >> versioning strategy where there's at least one number or numbers >> that changes iff substantial backward compatibility is introduced. > > Oh, and I wasn't trying to imply in the above that Emacs hasn't been > doing that. From at least the packaging perspective, my impression is > that so far, Emacs has. >>From a packaging point of view, 21.4 (or 22.1) includes the following: ** Leim is now part of the Emacs distribution. You no longer need to download a separate tarball in order to build Emacs with Leim. ** The Emacs Lisp Reference Manual is now part of the distribution. ** The Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp manual is now part of the distribution. ** The `emacsserver' program has been removed, replaced with elisp code. New Lisp packages included with emacs: dns-mode, flymake, tree-widget, wdired thumbs, python, url, ido, cua, kmacro, printing, calc, tramp, ruler-mode, ibuffer, table, ses, syntax, gdb-ui, bindat, buttons, master-mode. Updated packages: gnus, mh-e. rmail will use mbox format rather than babyl (not on trunk yet). Besides, emacs 21.4 can be biult with GTK+ support -- I don't know if you would want to distribute two versions in Debian (with and without GTK). -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk