From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some findings and suggestion about Emacs on w32 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 01:47:19 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <008d01c4b886$32d07ff0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1098488871 30239 80.91.229.6 (22 Oct 2004 23:47:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guy@wyrdrune.com, Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 23 01:47:41 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CL98G-0007NU-00 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 01:47:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CL9Fm-0001wW-E0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:55:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CL9Fd-0001wR-IF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:55:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CL9Fd-0001wF-4t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:55:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CL9Fc-0001wC-VG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:55:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.235] (helo=pfepa.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CL97t-0007wT-6T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:47:17 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepa.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id DB84147FE1D; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 01:47:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: "Lennart Borgman" In-Reply-To: <008d01c4b886$32d07ff0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Sat, 23 Oct 2004 00:24:35 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28760 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28760 "Lennart Borgman" writes: > 4) Addpm.exe besides changing the registry adds an shortcut to the Start > menu in GNU Emacs/Emacs that points to runemacs.exe. This is perhaps not > very good? Adding this entry could make a user believe that this is how > Emacs should be used. (I believed that for a long time and therefore did not > use Emacs. I wanted to, but it did not gave me the functionality I needed > invoked this way! I needed gnuserv.) I suggest that addpm.exe should not add > this entry. I completely disagree! Once you have started emacs (from the start menu), what business do you have outside emacs (i.e. in Windoze land)? But really, I practically never use gnuserv / emacsclient as I work inside emacs most of the time... so I have all the file navigation tools I need right there. I used to work with a collegue who used emacs just like vi, ie. starting a new instance for each file he wanted to edit. I tried to teach him that emacs could do much better, but he wouldn't listen. (I couldn't even get him to use emacsclient... :-) > > 5) Emacs without gnuserv is in my opinion very crippled on w32. Gnuserv > should in my opinion be part of Emacs distribution for ms windows. I suggest > the version from http://www.wyrdrune.com/. I suggest that CVS should include > this gnuserv. Sure, we should include a version of emacsclient which works with emacs' new internal emacsserver -- today I guess it will work fine with sockets (rather than mailslots which IIRC gnuserv uses). -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk