From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: random doesn't feel very random Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2012 13:13:24 +0200 Message-ID: References: <876288yh72.fsf@kanis.fr> <87wr0livd4.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83k3wfqtyx.fsf@gnu.org> <83vcfzosri.fsf@gnu.org> <5041626B.6080608@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1346498037 17962 80.91.229.3 (1 Sep 2012 11:13:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 11:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stromeko@nexgo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , rms@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 01 13:13:57 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T7leD-0007ZW-NM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 13:13:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57654 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T7leB-0005Xz-4o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 07:13:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47222) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T7le7-0005Xs-Vy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 07:13:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T7le7-0003hZ-3p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 07:13:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.bahnhof.se ([213.80.101.11]:63095) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T7le5-0003h7-8Q; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 07:13:45 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (mf.bahnhof.se [213.80.101.20]) by mx1-reinject (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8E8295545; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 13:13:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at bahnhof.se (MF1) Original-Received: from mf1.bahnhof.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mf1.bahnhof.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MjmqtRRo5sfO; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 13:13:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from exodia.verona.se (h-235-102.a149.priv.bahnhof.se [85.24.235.102]) by mf1.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919A0AEA875; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 13:13:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from chopper.vpn.verona.se (DIR-655.verona.se [192.168.200.86]) by exodia.verona.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E634E0085; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 13:13:24 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <5041626B.6080608@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:18:35 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-Received-From: 213.80.101.11 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152928 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > On 08/31/2012 12:43 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Alright, then let's make the change, > > I committed something to do that, in trunk bzr 109833 and > 109834. > > One thing that wasn't discussed was how to set the > seed, for people who want to do debugging and who want > repeatable random sequences. Trunk bzr 109833 does that by letting > one execute (random "STRING"), where the contents of the string > determine the seed. If this doesn't seem to be a good idea, > I'll volunteer to rip it out, or change it, or whatever. I would like this interface very much! -- Joakim Verona