From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making `interactive' conditional Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:55:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87mvszdp6b.fsf@gnus.org> <8737u9kv6f.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87fuy7hdc6.fsf_-_@wanadoo.es> <87bn8vh8q4.fsf@wanadoo.es> <4002fc97-5629-4367-8b8f-48b659fefdce@default> <87y4blbnbx.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453226186 17656 80.91.229.3 (19 Jan 2016 17:56:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 17:56:26 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 19 18:56:16 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aLaVp-0004ZI-LY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:56:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38623 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLaVl-0001SJ-QT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:56:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47185) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLaVZ-0001Ry-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:55:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLaVV-0005Q9-Dc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:55:57 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:51857) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLaVV-0005OS-68 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:55:53 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aLaV7-0005x1-Ox for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:55:29 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAMFBMVEXHw7/Qzcv+/v7Z1tP7 +/ri4d6cmJa8uLe0sK+uqqny8e/////+//79/f3q6ef4+PddOTxQAAACLUlEQVQ4jXXTT2jTUBwH 8Ejt/Mt0DAUJHhQpjIBWPewQ2EnHRg9uhw23ILKiTC37A6I4K4peyogYFdRqdKKioEVtkv5Z8m3T q2OgN3EED6IoOBgIwg45zPfS2qZN8g6/X3if/PJefi9hQMa8gCtoGQwN5UTrdA1wOQh2ZANgUBP8 obMs+4OEU/4gY/Va87xaBRFYfeRTYbIk9PFe6OVovOWBypRzuQB8/Xvk2Hv744E124HXNoyNqa3k gRtCp7dH+chwB0vBfII90zEcxl0M9YyGR+39K0M9BErdXF87qfvADZCYmw4fCoWubyOQ5ZX1dIli Rl8k+3+5Zv9+8+4HgQFEnbUVQWPduyolEAeeA3lWFd1A2jeyqIyTCh6Pm97jHrSHO88CWQGS6gZy ep+6xy0oJ61v0UbDmIpM09XZ9Eo60YWlBnTZNCVhXDwTn7d0rg7V4iRQEFB8NtaoyDiJPO9nBtqu lrbTCvVBBrnbHpBR/M5DHfOBgxURxqQHnpoiOfjslAsEJ0VJI8PQJRfEnRQhbVLYhc76vMp0OPkV /d5vfOmvQ5kpVNegy7YPRiwX0Jbkk59JXCflxQY4x6bb2hZ10+6bOP8fckxOpvDiRKptWZWhx+qA CQp3Zu5P7l1ahnEO4GowXL2l9OcS/Ub7L1hWDTQZ7nE0bdcAc00AY3azCrONQG8zQP01k0q/JVCI wTM4+keZoheqbZ8IghEuALJSAOD4XAAg0rKxfcA/d9gB2XOiZQIAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Tue, 19 Jan 2016 08:20:37 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1aLaV7-0005x1-Ox MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1453830930.59622@7ZDuMPDb9U+Vc7vRLavcLQ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198373 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: > A demonstrative implementation of this feature can be done without > instrumentation. Instrumentation is the "right" way, but is not a necessary > way. We shouldn't think core needs to be changed before we can try out a > fancier M-x. The implementation of the stuff in `M-x' is trivial: Don't complete to commands that are/aren't marked in a certain way. What will take real work is instrumenting the commands. (One way or the other.) Making changes and then seeing improvements in Emacs immediately would be a great motivating factor, I think, to get people to do this stuff. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no