From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Do we need legal papers Date: 05 Nov 2003 01:19:31 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1E88B416-FCC1-11D7-A154-000A958F13D0@mac.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067992816 4342 80.91.224.253 (5 Nov 2003 00:40:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 05 01:40:14 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHBiY-0008CQ-00 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 01:40:14 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHBiY-0000dN-00 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 01:40:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AHBbz-0001tO-1R for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:33:27 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AHBPr-0002bC-0G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:20:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AHBOh-0001eb-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:20:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [193.162.153.3] (helo=pfepb.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AHBOg-0001cO-EN; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:19:42 -0500 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 8357B5EE070; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 01:19:39 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Andrew Choi In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17691 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17691 Andrew Choi writes: > > Perhaps it is best if I'm relieved from being the Mac maintainer. I > program for the love of programming and not for any other reasons. Sure, we all love programming -- and that's why it is so important that we all do whatever we can to protect the freedom to do so. For FSF/GNU projects like Emacs, the enforcement of the GPL and the assignment of copyright to the FSF through legal papers is -- unfortunately -- the only way to do this. With Richard's non-compromising attitude on the subject of legal papers, I believe that GNU emacs (as distributed by the FSF) cannot be the target of similar FUD compains. So Andrew, please view Richard's "invervention" as a defence for emacs freedom, and reconsider you decision. > These responsibilities that seem to be expected of a maintainer do not > suit me. They don't "suit" any of us ... unfortunately, they are necessary to preserve the freedom we have. > For the record I was never asked and I have never promised to > be a maintainer. One day my name shows up in the MAINTAINER file and > that was it! I don't know who did that without consulting you -- but whoever did it, most likely did it to acknowledge and in appreciation of your contributions -- not to burden you with it. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk