From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: build broken: no defun org-float-time. Who's guilty, and what does he propose? Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:52:53 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20090907092823.GA3210@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252317198 14202 80.91.229.12 (7 Sep 2009 09:53:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 07 11:53:11 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MkauM-0006Se-E5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:53:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38024 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkauL-0005gm-I9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 05:53:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkauF-0005fQ-0D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 05:53:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkauA-0005ez-Et for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 05:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50594 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkauA-0005eh-5A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 05:52:58 -0400 Original-Received: from iwfs.imcode.com ([82.115.149.64]:34742 helo=gate.verona.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mkau9-0004PY-Hf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 05:52:57 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:1005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gate.verona.se (8.13.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id n879qr1o009204; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:52:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20090907092823.GA3210@muc.de> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:28:23 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115077 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: > Hi, Emacs, > > I've just cvs updated, and the build breaks with: > > org/org-ascii.el:29:1:Error: Symbol's function definition is void: org-float-time > > Could the person who's responsible please fix this. > > Here we go again. The endless tread mill of the broken build. It feels > like being spat at. Sorry to be so "unhelpful", but I've got no desire > or energy to keep debugging broken builds, or to keep "try make > bootstrap"ing. I'm going through a very bad patch in my personal life, > and I just don't have the energy any more, and I'm not prepared to do it. > > "cvs update" followed by "make" MUST WORK NEARLY ALL THE TIME. > Alternatively "bzr update", "make" working nearly all the time would be > OK. > > This is a serious process bug we have, we've had for years, and we MUST > fix. If it's not fixed soon, I'm just going to give up on Emacs > maintenance and bid the project goodbye. The pain level is too high. I've been interested in setting up an automatic build test environment for Emacs for some time. It would basically checkout the emacs sources on every checkin, build the sources and report the build quality(probably with some existing continuous integration software). I would also store a TB or something of past builds. Would that be of any help to you? > Sorry, and all that. -- Joakim Verona