From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: encrypt.el in No Gnus 0.7 Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:34:46 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: References: <87zly3y4ru.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87odejy30k.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <54a15d860710311830s4fa203e3y53fbd6f51496f007@mail.gmail.com> <54a15d860711010824w6888aafdgb0a0e5d48f6fdebb@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1194446120 5502 80.91.229.12 (7 Nov 2007 14:35:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, ueno@unixuser.org, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 07 15:35:21 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Iplzz-0007qR-Dp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:35:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iplzo-0007gN-Ao for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:35:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iplzj-0007er-3N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:35:03 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iplzg-0007dh-SX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:35:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iplzg-0007dZ-MQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:35:00 -0500 Original-Received: from blockstar.com ([170.224.69.95] helo=mail.blockstar.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IplzW-0000Hz-Nz; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:34:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mungo.local (c-67-186-103-18.hsd1.il.comcast.net [67.186.103.18]) by mail.blockstar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CF83F8567; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:56:37 -0800 (PST) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: rms@gnu.org, ueno@unixuser.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, miles@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:56:07 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (darwin) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:82740 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65581 Archived-At: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:56:07 -0500 Richard Stallman wrote: RS> It does a particular job RS> well, which is interfacing with GnuPG, but I think it's a disservice to RS> Emacs users to assume that GnuPG is all they need, and that they want to RS> install it to get encryption/decryption services. If you disagree with RS> me, there's little more I can say to convince you otherwise, since this RS> is the essential point I'm trying to make. RS> Evidence of users actually wanting to use that sort of extension in RS> Emacs would convince me very quickly. So far Stefan Monnier, Reiner Steib, and I have said this is something we want. Daiki Ueno is the only one to have spoken against it. Excluding the package maintainers for each side, this is 2-0. Any more votes for either side? Ted