From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 17:56:24 -0500 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <33545A47-0907-4059-92A6-0343CEDD2750@swipnet.se> <869E965F-CD75-46D6-92BB-B3C08C8D846B@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342306594 17229 80.91.229.3 (14 Jul 2012 22:56:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:56:34 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 15 00:56:34 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SqBGK-0000kC-GB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:56:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58001 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SqBGJ-0004zy-ND for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 18:56:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47568) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SqBGH-0004zt-FD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 18:56:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SqBGG-0001Vl-C2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 18:56:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:57195) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SqBGG-0001Vh-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 18:56:28 -0400 Original-Received: by obhx4 with SMTP id x4so8436137obh.0 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 15:56:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:organization:references:mail-followup-to :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LTxGt+9pzZHwEIHlKxi6/KUudrDaQqU+1uxz7uGgM7E=; b=xmkI/95GO9gV0rP+XAn+up8NOOFT8Aouff/StrKRajykqRvnVI7jaTFpacSoZpMjjs hmqoGqKKODXPrpNsmsKsfcah4NMRFO87uYlrte+Zw4UV/ON5FY/0LNAahpoNAOOhXJvo 33PBYIfZ9RqY3BLvA8UqGwjLyJA5nx0V5XXZ1TIXhp7+hqrrg2cDkJwzRiYj8At/Wby2 RS7SXkO6xKLy+JSb68xcwMoL6+M4wB6/tHwfApS9+vImQhKAIW+fe2YkTX9BVumuQOWI 2pVVOcnYDU93AHzSMXlqHe05v6uqG8s0fveHzpC/3mn4fmYciDBZfgL6Q7cDFR6UsBgp r/Pg== Original-Received: by 10.50.181.161 with SMTP id dx1mr2141182igc.52.1342306587089; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 15:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from vulcan.local (c-98-215-105-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.215.105.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wp10sm10493668igb.6.2012.07.14.15.56.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 14 Jul 2012 15:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id B5DDAF391982; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 17:56:24 -0500 (CDT) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <869E965F-CD75-46D6-92BB-B3C08C8D846B@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv=22's?= message of "Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:00:08 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.214.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151615 Archived-At: >>>>> Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: > I think that for the Emacs project it is more important to support other = GNU > projects than to make the best Emacs we can on non-GNU platforms. That is > my impression at least. I think this is a really bad precedent to set. By making Emacs inferior to benefit the GNU project, I think we hurt Emacs more than we benefit GNU. If GNU needs so much help that we should sacrifice the excellence of Emacs = at its altar, that speaks volumes right there. John