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From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: yantar92@posteo.net,  emacs-devel@gnu.org,  eller.helmut@gmail.com
Subject: Re: MPS: profiler
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:32:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2zfre4uq7.fsf@pro2.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86tthmlq98.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:16:35 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>,  emacs-devel@gnu.org,
>>   eller.helmut@gmail.com
>> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:54:34 +0200
>> 
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> 
>> > Also, can 'static struct profiler_log cpu', which is being worked on
>> > by record_backtrace, be affected by MPS in any way?
>> 
>> I'd guess that just "touching" Lisp objects in the SIGPROF handler can
>> be problematic because these objects themselves can be behind a barrier,
>> either the same that MPS is currently working on when it got interrupted
>> or another one.
>
> Which Lisp objects do we touch in record_backtrace?  All I see is that
> we access spec_pdl and its data.  Is that supposed to be dangerous
> while MPS does its thing?

I don't know. In the backtrace I commented on in a reply to Ihor, we had
this:

  #0  0x00005555558b53d6 in PSEUDOVECTORP (a=0x7fffe6dde715, code=32) at /home/yantar92/Git/emacs/src/lisp.h:1104
  #1  0x00005555558b567f in CLOSUREP (a=0x7fffe6dde715) at /home/yantar92/Git/emacs/src/lisp.h:3368
  #2  0x00005555558b5b80 in trace_hash (trace=0x555556329400, depth=16) at profiler.c:189


>
> Also note that add_sample (called by the SIGPROF handler) does this:
>
>   if (EQ (backtrace_top_function (), QAutomatic_GC)) /* bug#60237 */
>     /* Special case the time-count inside GC because the hash-table
>        code is not prepared to be used while the GC is running.
>        More specifically it uses ASIZE at many places where it does
>        not expect the ARRAY_MARK_FLAG to be set.  We could try and
>        harden the hash-table code, but it doesn't seem worth the
>        effort.  */
>     plog->gc_count = saturated_add (plog->gc_count, count);
>   else
>     record_backtrace (plog, count);
>
> IOW, it avoids recording the backtrace if called during GC.  Perhaps
> we should do the same with igc?  Or doe we already set up
> backtrace_top_function to return QAutomatic_GC in that case?

I don't think we do. I'm not even sure we could do that reliably since
MPS is running concurrently.

> And finally, I see in make_log that we already do something about the
> log variables that is specific to MPS.  Is that not enough to prevent
> this kind of issues?

No, that's just making sure we trace what's in the malloc'd memory.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-21  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-20 19:25 MPS: profiler Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-20 19:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-20 19:48   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-20 19:58     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-20 20:29       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21  5:57         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21  6:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21  6:54           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21  7:16             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21  7:32               ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2024-06-21  7:19             ` Helmut Eller
2024-06-21  7:36               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21  7:44                 ` Helmut Eller
2024-06-21  7:51                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21  8:21                     ` Helmut Eller
2024-06-21  8:31                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 10:45                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21 11:47                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 12:01                             ` Helmut Eller
2024-06-21 12:09                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21 12:42                                 ` Helmut Eller
2024-06-21 12:51                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21 14:49                                     ` MPS make-thread (was: MPS: profiler) Helmut Eller
2024-06-21 15:20                                       ` MPS make-thread Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 15:33                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 15:42                                           ` Helmut Eller
2024-06-21 16:46                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 18:31                                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 19:58                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21 20:10                                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-22 18:52                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-22 19:17                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23  3:18                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-23  4:54                                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-23  6:19                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23  5:53                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23  6:45                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-23  8:53                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23  9:36                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-23 10:21                                                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-23 10:27                                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-23 13:19                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 14:16                                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-26 11:20                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-26 11:25                                                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-22 19:26                                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-22  6:29                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-22 18:53                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-22 19:04                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-22 19:17                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-22 18:13                                                 ` Helmut Eller
2024-06-22 18:31                                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-25 18:42                                                   ` MPS native subrs (was: MPS make-thread) Helmut Eller via Emacs development discussions.
2024-06-25 20:10                                                     ` MPS native subrs Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-25 20:48                                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-26  6:31                                                         ` Helmut Eller
2024-06-26  7:00                                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-26 13:45                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 14:18                                                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-26 15:15                                                             ` Helmut Eller
2024-06-26 17:12                                                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-26 13:30                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 13:34                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26  4:55                                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-26 13:36                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 13:26                                                     ` MPS native subrs (was: MPS make-thread) Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 14:41                                                     ` MPS native subrs Andrea Corallo
2024-06-21 12:43                                 ` MPS: profiler Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 16:11                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21 12:41                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 14:10                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21 16:09                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21 16:22                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 18:51                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21 18:58                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 19:23                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21 19:50                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 20:02                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-22  6:37                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21  7:43               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21  7:50                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21  7:53                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 10:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21 10:57                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21 10:58                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21 11:20                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21 11:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21 11:33                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 19:55                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-21 16:12           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21 18:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21 10:49         ` Pip Cet
2024-06-21 10:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21  5:56     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21  6:14       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-20 19:50 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-20 20:02   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21  5:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21  6:16       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21  8:23 ` Pip Cet
2024-06-21  8:43   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-21  8:50   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-21 10:43   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21 11:00     ` Pip Cet
2024-06-21 11:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-21 11:39         ` Gerd Möllmann

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