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From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org,  ofv@wanadoo.es,  pipcet@protonmail.com
Subject: Re: Gap buffer problem?
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 16:51:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2zfl2p68z.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <867c8647v8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 11 Dec 2024 16:22:35 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es>,  Pip Cet
>>  <pipcet@protonmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 06:27:43 +0100
>> 
>> Pip Cet via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
>> writes:
>> 
>> > To be fair, part of that may be the gap buffer problem rather than GC.
>> 
>> Could you please tell more about the gap buffer problem?
>> 
>> I've read a little about the tradeoffs between gap buffers, piece
>> tables, ropes, but I'm wondering if there is something concrete already
>> known for sure that is a performance problem in Emacs. Maybe a bug that
>> has been analyzed or something.
>> 
>> (I'm asking because I just recently encountered a performance problem
>> when adding something to xdisp.c:27339 (with cc-mode, Eglot, Corfu), and
>> editing there was so slow that it was absolutely no fun, and that on a
>> an M1 pro. Haven't investigated the reason.)
>
> Unless you have a huge (and I mean a HUGE) buffer, and some Lisp that
> moves point, then inserts a small number of characters, then moves
> point far away and again inserts a small number of characters, etc.,
> I'd be very surprised if the gap buffer caused significant performance
> problems on a modern CPU.
>
> Can you profile that case and post the expanded profile?  I'm always
> happy to be wrong about performance bottlenecks, and profiles are good
> at proving me wrong.

Maybe I'll try to investigate that further at some point. Such things
always tend to be so time consuming...



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-11 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2024-08-17 22:49 ` Emacs-devel Digest, Vol 246, Issue 17 ali_gnu2
2024-08-18  0:10   ` Po Lu
2024-08-18  0:19     ` Po Lu
2024-08-18  1:15     ` Solaris dldump (was: Pure space) ali_gnu2
2024-08-18  1:25       ` Solaris dldump Po Lu
2024-08-18 22:27         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-08-18 23:56           ` Po Lu
2024-08-19 11:18             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 12:09               ` Po Lu
2024-08-19 12:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 11:44             ` Pip Cet
2024-08-19 11:57               ` Po Lu
2024-08-19 12:10                 ` Pip Cet
2024-08-19 12:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 13:46                     ` Pip Cet
2024-08-19 14:39                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 15:26                         ` Corwin Brust
2024-08-19 15:31                           ` Corwin Brust
2024-08-19 20:51                       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-08-19 20:35             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-08 12:17     ` pdumper on Solaris 10 Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-08 13:05       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-08 13:52         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-08 14:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-08 16:17             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-08 16:49               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-08 17:37                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-08 18:41                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-08 19:15                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-08 20:38                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-09  3:09                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-09  3:32                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-09  3:43                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-09  4:53                               ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-09  5:26                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-09 13:58                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-10  0:02                                   ` Po Lu
2024-12-09  9:56                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-10  0:04                             ` Po Lu
2024-12-10  3:34                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-11  1:13                                 ` Po Lu
2024-12-11 11:29                                   ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-09  4:59                     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-09 14:39                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-09 21:06                         ` Merging MPS a.k.a. scratch/igc, yet again Stefan Kangas
2024-12-09 21:49                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-10  4:17                             ` Xiyue Deng
2024-12-10  4:26                               ` Sean Whitton
2024-12-10  4:42                               ` chad
2024-12-10 13:10                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-10 15:10                                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-10 15:37                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-10 15:47                                     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-10 17:16                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-10 13:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-10 14:46                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-10 13:09                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-10 13:20                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-10 14:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-09 23:13                           ` chad
2024-12-10 12:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-10  0:09                         ` pdumper on Solaris 10 Stefan Kangas
2024-12-10 12:59                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-10 13:39                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-10 14:39                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-10 15:21                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-10 16:39                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-10 15:38                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-10 16:04                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-10 17:23                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-11  5:27                                 ` Gap buffer problem? Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-11  8:50                                   ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-11  9:35                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-11 11:50                                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-11 13:22                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-11 14:53                                           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-11 15:33                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-11 16:58                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-11 17:13                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-11 17:45                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2024-12-11 18:11                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-11 19:08                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-11 17:41                                                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-11 19:04                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-11 19:09                                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-11 12:27                                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-11 13:27                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-11 15:06                                           ` Marcus Harnisch
2024-12-11 14:22                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-11 15:51                                     ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2024-12-11 17:06                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-11 17:15                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-10 18:13                               ` pdumper on Solaris 10 Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-10 15:23                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-10 17:08                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-10 18:03                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-10 19:34                                   ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-10 19:59                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-10 20:17                                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-10 20:34                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-11 14:13                                   ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-11 17:43                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-09 16:21                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-08 18:47                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-09  1:13                 ` Po Lu
2024-12-09  1:08           ` Po Lu
2024-12-09  0:58       ` Po Lu
2024-12-09  3:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-09  1:01       ` Po Lu
2024-12-09 13:11         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.

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