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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: chad <yandros@gmail.com>,
	"christian.lynbech@tieto.com>" <christian.lynbech@tieto.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: mailclient-send-it usage of browse-url
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 02:34:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ye01d8a51004151734h4776ef46u6418805f82511208@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvwrw8w966.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> Better, but not good enough IMO since it does not work for web mail
>> and a lot of users might have that.
>
> Maybe it won't quite do the best possible thing, but it does solve the
> main problem: using an interface where the user is likely to send a bug
> report that will just get silently dropped somewhere along the way.
>
> Furthermore, the current code tries mostly to let the "system" figure out
> what MUA to use, so if a user is using webmail as her MUA, then the
> "system" should know about it; and if the "system" can't be told to use
> that webmail system, then it's a problem in the "system".


Yes, it is a system failure, but are we not trying to get around these
here for the purpose of getting the bug reports? I believe the two
step procedure of first displaying a web page and then letting the
user click a mail link there is a little bit more likely to succeed.

I myself has resorted to copy-and-paste when sending bug reports
because of the bad integration with web mail.

Here is how gmail web mail works currently with the best possible w32
system integration (affixa + gmail):

- When "opening" a mailto url affixa catches it and saves it to the
gmail draft folder. And it ask some not very good question first.
- This means there is an empty mail in the draft folder addressed to
bug-gnu-emacs.
- To send the message I have to open the draft folder in the gmail web
interface and then copy the message from the clipboard to it.

Of course I do not do that. I just create a new message from the gmail
web interface.

However even without installing the affixa firefox knows that I am
using gmail. Unfortunately firefox does not care to tell w32 that so
it only works from web pages, not from w32 "open" mailto calls. (That
is why I am suggesting the two step workaround.)




  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-16  0:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <D6FDF877-2199-48E7-8B06-4E6325EDEAC9@mit.edu>
2010-04-15 16:49 ` Fwd: mailclient-send-it usage of browse-url chad
2010-04-15 17:15   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-15 17:22     ` Chad Brown
2010-04-15 19:00       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-16  0:14     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-16  0:34       ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2010-04-16  1:08         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-16 11:13           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-16 12:49             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13 19:51 Christian Lynbech
2010-04-13 22:06 ` David Reitter
2010-04-14  3:22   ` Christian Lynbech
2010-04-14 11:41     ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-14 13:07       ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 13:25         ` David Reitter
2010-04-15  7:46           ` christian.lynbech
     [not found]             ` <C8D541C4-F87C-48F8-917C-5A4C6AC02203@mit.edu>
2010-04-15 16:49               ` chad
2010-04-14 13:36         ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-14 16:02           ` David Reitter
2010-04-14 16:35             ` Chad Brown
2010-04-14 16:41             ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-14 17:46               ` David Reitter
2010-04-14 23:19                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-15  2:28                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-15  7:52                   ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15 17:13                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-15 18:48                     ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-16  8:05                       ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-17 19:55                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-14 19:58           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-14 14:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-15  8:14           ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 12:55     ` David Reitter
2010-04-14 13:20       ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 13:30         ` David Reitter

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