From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: encrypt.el in No Gnus 0.7 Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:48:30 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: References: <87zly3y4ru.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <54a15d860711071658j40e1af43r6be4fb0f44ece932@mail.gmail.com> <54a15d860711071716g76be1cc1iaa340dce27a54896@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1194533342 7281 80.91.229.12 (8 Nov 2007 14:49:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Daiki Ueno" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 08 15:49:05 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Iq8gq-0006KL-Pr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:49:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq8gf-0003Ec-Gg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:48:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq8gb-0003EN-Kc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:48:49 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq8gZ-0003EB-4I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:48:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq8gY-0003E8-Tm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:48:46 -0500 Original-Received: from blockstar.com ([170.224.69.95] helo=mail.blockstar.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Iq8gQ-0000dO-E8; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:48:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mungo.local (c-67-186-103-18.hsd1.il.comcast.net [67.186.103.18]) by mail.blockstar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7A53F8570; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 07:10:30 -0800 (PST) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: "Daiki Ueno" , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, miles@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <54a15d860711071716g76be1cc1iaa340dce27a54896@mail.gmail.com> (Daiki Ueno's message of "Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:16:50 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (darwin) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:82802 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65592 Archived-At: On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:16:50 +0900 "Daiki Ueno" wrote: DU> 2007/11/8, Daiki Ueno : >> 2007/11/7, Ted Zlatanov : >> > So far Stefan Monnier, Reiner Steib, and I have said this is something >> > we want. Daiki Ueno is the only one to have spoken against it. >> > Excluding the package maintainers for each side, this is 2-0. Any more >> > votes for either side? >> >> They really use encrypt.el and are saying that they want to use such >> sort of extension? It seems not. Stefan wrote: > I think there's enough space in the Emacs world for both to coexist. Reiner wrote: > I think it would be useful to have at least one builtin encryption > (without requiring external programs) in Emacs, if possible. I'd rather get actual votes at this point than debate semantics. So, if anyone wants to vote for or against encrypt.el, please do (including Stefan and Reiner, please, to remove ambiguity). I think I have said enough on the topic to make up everyone's mind. I will integrate with rijndael.el if anyone needs that. DU> Also, I'm not against that we have at least one builtin cipher. I DU> just opposed that including a crap called encrypt.el. So your vote is a no, as we've already established. Let's move on. Ted