From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default emacs init file location confusion Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 19:12:42 +0100 Message-ID: References: <834kx7cgmh.fsf@gnu.org> <87tv56bjop.fsf@gmail.com> <539DBEA2-E758-4CB0-B886-F908CF0525B6@gnu.org> <83pnfuaqj3.fsf@gnu.org> <83imllc3iq.fsf@gnu.org> <87eew9q4rt.fsf@windriver.com> <83h815c26h.fsf@gnu.org> <83ftgpc0m1.fsf@gnu.org> <83d0btbz4z.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="45298"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: matthewzmd@gmail.com, smartlitchi@gmail.com, lokedhs@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 08 19:14:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFq6-0016M2-N0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 19:13:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47724 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFq5-0007Oa-I0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:13:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35619) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFp1-0006Om-4Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:12:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFp0-0007vS-6b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:12:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x443.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::443]:44713) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFp0-0007uQ-12; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:12:46 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x443.google.com with SMTP id q10so4391532wrm.11; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 10:12:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KzocS6YAkM8WepFfsFPAoZgwwccoigMcIpxiFv0fifQ=; b=GDsQR5KGKivHHstClFGEH1zWW8agicjG1TJpBBXbp03dkLWFPqsHXi5eBzXZhC3jNs 50reBJEA/WfgQo1NDeCLIhVVw+wqUgB0kWDSqaKsRTWPAauIf4WGkQoy8Fou6OW+uim9 N/R8S84O1MZc9bpPe/fBuJW+51XUCAEq32mklnLlYG9Ee+bEiuXvf63pHp2xJhr4EfGU MXBFx6yAtJDLCuuN1/XDZDfRKF+iCpCnMAv2YpXAkbyL8WroHdsJ06WG2v+xYiTIwkC/ KPghkt/7UseWkPKaSdlHLsII2e9VkNjl8C4mLNFPv9i82Zpn9KqU7IZUCQEWv7VJg7JV c8vg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KzocS6YAkM8WepFfsFPAoZgwwccoigMcIpxiFv0fifQ=; b=QoevgyTInMT5AGlaUXqZZ9j8EXFl7gUFJRKE9M5p62FCUGYwe++84jGlaL5HhnVbN3 qVsBj8BtCTGtATRX8VGDeDfnEFZ9xVJK6jq6dedalJeQ+1UdJLL8GfDcSolJ8laBYAOH OE4Kpo00bLvSWwbWVH9wSFzNhyMAaZ/SODzRZuVmnUiWgEob1B5b1MSR97a0UI4rL9se ytPV1L+72/tzKcHxxG1rA2eFZGped2LefUZDTwMoHtEWH+6iP736Gm342gXeaYceIF9Y 6DiQdCjWFUO+qwF02crfl81b35OgU6ApXBIiw2aMnhSRLhOE6OMN7GLoHMSexH8xuVOV dLPg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX90lWc6joJAsRA5/GwtTPOUKlcgpAOQFMHj1Vp7J1wCk8tJ9g+ KkoJet51qHMVcBYbTiYqK31PGIpn4cc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzbXg9X9g5DlZl/kBtEfkR0g3pKa/xLdmciJvoLUOYZaV4V87ae5jlHknHdso1dI0/9Oft4CQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ea4f:: with SMTP id j15mr6219449wrn.356.1578507164376; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 10:12:44 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from rpluim-mac ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s65sm4769156wmf.48.2020.01.08.10.12.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 08 Jan 2020 10:12:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83d0btbz4z.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 08 Jan 2020 20:07:24 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::443 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:244141 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 08 Jan 2020 20:07:24 +0200, Eli Zaretskii said: >> It is, but 'use this new thing only if you create it' is pretty >> unsurprising as well, we=CA=BCre not going to stop using .emacs.d an= d force >> people to use ~/.config/emacs. Eli> Sorry, I'm unconvinced. Eli> Let me put it this way: why should we prefer XDG just because the Eli> directory exists, but not prefer ~/.emacs.d when that one exists? Because the XDG one will only exist if the user is opting-in to using it? Anyway, I guess I can=CA=BCt convince you. We'll just have to be very clear in the NEWS entry. Robert