From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arash Esbati Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Support for MS-Windows build of Emacs Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:30:28 +0200 Message-ID: References: <86jzha4kc3.fsf@gnu.org> <86plr2587s.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22272"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 30 16:31:26 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sYnsr-0005a0-Uk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:31:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sYnsB-0008K0-7w; Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:30:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sYns2-00087G-Fz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:30:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sYns1-00049N-Pc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:30:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=UXIBCdmuJ1Yr4aUVDbbGkgu41RV2r4hw1pkg2E//mCQ=; b=nSdY80nXn6ckmlENe4Nt 07cr1CFJq3ESLbYoSiZ2xl2l1tiKOjExgCLPuefZc8sqeKtsX36yTEP0KR36HphojQZEizF3WBT3Y klljLwSdqRv9peCBqRXYhRt0jXKZ7tqb6qjN1TaSjNakQs5Ue+NW8QuD3k/LLzP/59pleBi3hjB92 wbz410wh9m7i/Z0IZCaV++lwNDmthoif1wHB147g3+elCtH4U5NQilccvU6mPqyMtlh816nXl8inb kntwnrKd1II5IH4X4dll6VvL+jQEsWXXzCBkttRfinxEFtRLJiiZexU8qs9VFoR/c+XEUjhFhU3Hl JpN36FDsMqH4nQ==; In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 27 Jul 2024 22:58:09 -0400") X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322212 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Our primary goal is developing the GNU operating system. Other > systems are inherently less important than that, and nonfree systems > even less so. Given our limited resources, we have to do things this > way. I think this part should be crystal clear to everybody who enters the scene here. > However, as long as people keep wanting to use Emacs on those nonfree > systems, I hope some of them will step forward and support Emacs there. > > Is there a way we can encourage them to? I suggest to look back and ask what was the process until now that the project is facing this situation. It is hard to give a good answer without knowing the past; and I'm not long enough around to have a good judgement. As a personal note, comments like[1]: It is useful for those interested in running Emacs on Losedows to test the MPS code on that system, but I request that we all join in refusing to refer to Microsoft Losedows as a "win". don't sound encouraging for people the project is trying to recruit, at least in my book. > A good place to post? I think emacs-devel is the right place. Eli's last post is already being noted; see the second link on this page[2]. So I suggest to post a request for support here, the task and qualification needed, and let others spread the word. Let's see what happens then and take it from there. Best, Arash Footnotes: [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2024-07/msg01204.html [2] https://sachachua.com/blog/2024/07/2024-07-29-emacs-news/