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[76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c30sm8930223pgn.33.2017.09.20.07.45.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:45:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 03D858DE99E4; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:45:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83vakdg9d2.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:41:29 +0300") Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , acm@muc.de, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218587 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: > I gave my reasons. Reading back on the message thread, I now think more strongly that it should be a defcustom in 26.1. I don't see why we'd want to remove that defcustom after providing it, which I believe was your main concern. Enough non-curly users want it (just on this list), and it seems odd that it's not there. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2