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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::32a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:233213 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Experience shows that the complaints come in too late, and the hope >> that we can easily revert such a change is frequently thwarted. > > AFAIK it's been "impossible" to compile Emacs with ftx backend but > without the xft library since 2009. > > So, maybe I should rather argue that it's high time we scrap the > code altogether since it's been useless and unused for 10 years now. +1