From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: fonts on master Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:04:22 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3767-Tue14Jan2020154638+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> <838sma57xm.fsf@gnu.org> <8336ch6cnl.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="173136"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, john To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 14 21:05:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1irSR6-000iO3-JI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:05:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45460 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1irSR5-0001PS-AK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 15:05:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42514) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1irSQM-0000yG-OV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 15:04:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1irSQL-0001SD-OM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 15:04:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x32a.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::32a]:39514) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1irSQL-0001RX-Gc; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 15:04:25 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x32a.google.com with SMTP id 20so15197404wmj.4; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:04:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version; bh=bn3LWLPc+dV+Ztuno+HdPr6LIAyUK3fCt8Z8Txla3pc=; b=jvgIcNm7C8vdt9bhYb+OYroaJ82doTjT7a4vGsuquuevUXNDWq3rzdwivtaOpDgAhk oIoRw7gTLwhOdLlOoFW29GTlnxdaAJKQycQlJXRxJcvdz52g+iOW0eURWqEZaDWFBBsv P3icMTXN3QZCwHqKbGa7Ps1vWH1OBxoaRkZnjXkZabEZgf8fLGLfgKbGoHVRgTVmpGgX q3J9iytOo54MASZ/QPcoM9+AVV/L2DDuCB4bNneW1Yoa05L0Vvpie6m9lGp6O1mpoxJR 6RXJzZnqZKfp9jcJbVh0o9o/SdEX5hdTZ/SG5v7vOT/+URwUWAkVPCA/M9DtyB/IFNQ6 3MTw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=bn3LWLPc+dV+Ztuno+HdPr6LIAyUK3fCt8Z8Txla3pc=; b=ujoE1gsoA6eD4I+LOEWoglBIevVOGAUdDMWeI8NHvpqfctyUbcENGeRgfgF1Jrnl+z lKNmmrVGJAO3orIffBz9xW90dqFZB3sWJ0pv38CxvEECP66z62X4Iy2md6G52RzNejz5 +SlYYMRy/oERkRFrRp44QnwRbgYhElgz6WL0YpGxtEpFpOa59u2azsZbX1dgK7jfr+z9 x5rFuyY6MuO4DsmvlrnNIGXaWfuyYd6NlW39PaPNVwbgXsPOQeNYz0uYvIHNmUwcTWFX d6arCdLIGN5nvrzQ0CwTUH0zAp6bH6n2hyU/rxgb4xk17AL/57ebyig1+A/WJqPKSZrB MW5g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXpIMb5lnNBNg9IR28h/m3TWZ6r+wqnLN8lhcyz3ItdzFeUTuWk AexM5Hx3/cCuQjDeG0pCIAtZA6CF X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzWZ3D0nKmygMi7URBQkYxyIP47l/hvlqTb21VqzcGJZPa3b94AXueFKhtpj/xCYjOHHRk0VQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:740b:: with SMTP id p11mr30839927wmc.78.1579032263856; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:04:23 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from rpluim-mac ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:9420:f8f5:d08a:e4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i16sm21149892wmb.36.2020.01.14.12.04.23 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:04:23 -0800 (PST) Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <8336ch6cnl.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:50:06 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::32a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:244260 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:50:06 +0200, Eli Zaretskii said: >> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:57:13 +0000 (GMT) >> From: john >> cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> Looking around at what has changed I saw that --with-cairo was the >> default, so I built with --without-cairo and that works as before. >> Sorry not to be able to answer the quetsions; visual stuff is not by >> forte and I am largely ignorant of what cairo is. Eli> We want to migrate towards Cairo, so disabling it is not the best Eli> solution. By disabling it, you get an Xft build, which has known Eli> problems with some modern fonts, and no good solutions (since Xft Eli> doesn't seem to be actively maintained anymore). Eli> Let me turn the table and ask you why you need that font? is something Eli> wrong with the default font selected by the Cairo build? Based on the Suse website, ETL is a packaging of bitmapped versions of the Gnu intlfonts, for which TrueType versions definitely exist, so if you really want to continue to use it you can install those. Robert