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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250386 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 15 May 2020 14:58:43 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 13:49:23 +0200 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com, stefankangas@gmail.= com, >> rms@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com >>=20 Eli> I think I did mean 'torsocks', but I'm way out of my depth here, so Eli> feel free to ignore me. >>=20 >> 'torsocks' just does what I described up-thread: send network traffic >> to the tor instance running on localhost:9050, which can already be >> done using the emacs variables. Eli> Is that easy enough for users? Maybe we should have a defcustom t= hat Eli> would set that up? To replace the two that we have already? People who want to do this tend to be very technically capable, I don=CA=BCt see the need. Robert