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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250772 Archived-At: >>>>> On Mon, 18 May 2020 16:38:36 +0300, Dmitry Gutov s= aid: Dmitry> On 18.05.2020 16:02, martin rudalics wrote: >> > Could you share your config? Perhaps we could make it into a >> package,=C2=A0 too. >> An old version is on the last line of that thread >> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D33498 >> but I attach the latest version here. Dmitry> Thank you. Dmitry> If I visit the file and M-x eval-buffer, I get this error: Dmitry> Error setting pop-up-mini-mode: (error =E2=80=99pop-up-mini-mod= e=E2=80=99 needs a Dmitry> minibuffer-only frame) Dmitry> (Whether I start from 'emacs -Q' or not.) And if you set emacs to use a minibuffer-only frame? emacs -Q --eval "(setq default-frame-alist '((minibuffer . nil)))" Robert