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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312168 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann >> Cc: paaguti@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2023 16:08:09 +0100 >>=20 >> What I'm missing is a positive reason why to use it. I don't see one. > > It's preloaded. I think this is a good reason for using it. Sparing 10^-7 seconds, when cl-lib is already loaded anyway? > The fact > that it's preloaded should also say something about how the Emacs > maintainers see seq.el and its future. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but that's kind of a weak argument. And an entirely non-technical one.