From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrew Choi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: pcl-cvs help Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:05:32 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5l65sfa2t2.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200301232349.h0NNnWo09694@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200301240123.h0O1NK022670@champion.sslsecure.com> <200301271739.h0RHdbi31673@rum.cs.yale.edu> <11560000.1043711009@[10.0.1.8]> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1043823921 9373 80.91.224.249 (29 Jan 2003 07:05:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Caldwell Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18dmH4-0002PH-00 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:04:42 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18dmM2-0002hi-00 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:09:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18dmIZ-0005qS-00 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 02:06:15 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18dmI7-0005lF-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 02:05:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18dmI1-0005WD-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 02:05:42 -0500 Original-Received: from shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net ([24.71.223.10] helo=pd5mo3so.prod.shaw.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18dmI1-0005T2-00; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 02:05:41 -0500 Original-Received: from pd2mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr2so-ser.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.109])2002)) with ESMTP id <0H9G00GGIRP9H9@l-daemon>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:05:33 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml5so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.149]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H9G006EARP9TX@l-daemon>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:05:33 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: from owlbear.local.shawmail (h68-144-207-94.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.207.94])2002)) with ESMTP id <0H9G00ICORP8FI@l-daemon>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:05:33 -0700 (MST) In-reply-to: Original-To: rms@gnu.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Lines: 15 Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11183 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11183 Richard Stallman writes: > Andrew Choi wrote: > > There is a problem with the implementation of ptys on the Mac OS X. > That was why I set process-connection-type to nil by default in > lisp/term/mac-win.el. > > It's better to do this in Emacs than to advise every user to do it. > Is this a bug in ptys such that Emacs can't make them work, > or is it a bug in Emacs's pty support that could theoretically be > fixed in Emacs? I believe there is a bug in Mac OS X's implementation of ptys that causes characters to be lost.