From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Sean O'Rourke" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: remove dabbrev--scanning-message? Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:58:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185231558 10348 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2007 22:59:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 24 00:59:17 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ID6rw-0004zg-TI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:59:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ID6rw-0002Z9-IE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:59:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ID6ru-0002Yy-17 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:59:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ID6rr-0002Yg-OH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:59:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ID6rr-0002Yd-Hm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:59:07 -0400 Original-Received: from outbound2.ucsd.edu ([132.239.1.206]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ID6rq-0003ic-4e; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:59:06 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.ucsd.edu (smtp.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.49]) by outbound2.ucsd.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l6NMx1Xp008395 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:59:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=2007001; d=ucsd.edu; c=simple; q=dns; b=Tn0fGuLSPKE/lLZeXqOqH/ZppH0jIzuBAglElwNntLnNvy0D+RFVNPyOhFKLgiQk6 63M1E3XRfSElE3CQ5NJWg== Original-Received: from mister-foo.local (0-16-cb-b9-d7-be.dynamic.ucsd.edu [128.54.54.202]) by smtp.ucsd.edu (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l6NMx01R006880; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:59:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon\, 23 Jul 2007 18\:30\:26 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (darwin) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75424 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > For me, it takes 7 seconds or so with the messages, and 5 seconds with > no messages. I think I would rather have the messages. Ouch. For me it's 0.5 or 1 second with messages, and nearly imperceptible without, making dabbrev-expand convenient for completing long words while typing text. It sounds like this feature is almost completely useless to you now. > Do you have a lot of small buffers? I currently have 76 buffers taking 7864231 bytes, but about 6M of that is an enormous *info* buffer, so the median is 3278 bytes. I'm not sure what people think of as "small". Given that people do see substantial delays, it seems like the best approach would be: (1) Replace the messages with a progress-reporter (assuming it's faster), since the filenames probably go by too fast to read anyways. (2) Provide a user option `dabbrev-report-progress', true by default, to enable/disable this feedback. /s