From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 4K Bugs Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 12:15:54 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87mvszdp6b.fsf@gnus.org> <567E4ABA.3080803@online.de> <83vb7lijub.fsf@gnu.org> <567EAECD.2070403@online.de> <83d1tti2xr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twn5mabk.fsf@gnus.org> <567EC76E.8050701@cs.ucla.edu> <87oaddksn2.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451333930 26280 80.91.229.3 (28 Dec 2015 20:18:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 20:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert , Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 28 21:18:44 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aDeFe-00005Y-Hl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:18:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46104 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDeFd-0006ZV-Ms for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:18:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53886) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDeFH-00065I-2G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:18:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDeFF-0000yg-7n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:18:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]:34244) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDeFA-0000xX-Kp; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:18:12 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-x230.google.com with SMTP id uo6so91920102pac.1; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 12:18:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=qcTmihBu0a5T99tPKYlNX0gSjKuD8oOIdzWeyXakRWc=; b=iIEUapaw/A3eESQR9+0wzGY6LMlgMfhBbnm5Rh3wEy2Y8k4gWHrw+9iRNFZF3pN018 0czrdn//Lf8s+fb0fWONhlfuTutkpqLGEDS5mxsvD+eWLdbDOAMQSIpFHyej/RCSEvmz ho/6PgliucvKHBnYbrd3X0BXbRTsCj6Rgsdi5gjG5LN3z/GpARALTzTvXYaVhUtXD8+l Je2el6zdqjYLOTmWMl3arn3vBWi3/vp/gHVnMnvPIuf0FpJpzFRQDVp7F0xfiEY5W1F4 uhIzltkG7oNNiE0TeE9ZdFIijlCge9An7oSmZwn7YNDTz4ZGy+ASisztNCNiVYxVRj0E Byag== X-Received: by 10.66.142.201 with SMTP id ry9mr82379514pab.89.1451333892032; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 12:18:12 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l80sm53037470pfi.76.2015.12.28.12.18.10 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Dec 2015 12:18:10 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8BD8A11B7311A; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 12:18:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87oaddksn2.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 26 Dec 2015 18:48:49 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Paul Eggert , Eli Zaretskii , Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=B6hler?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197035 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Handling bugs is, like, work. :-) Perhaps the FSF could hire a full-time = bug > herder? A bug herder is the most significant piece of the Emacs Project Puzzle that= is missing, in my opinion. Eli and others (and recently Lars especially) have made heroic efforts, but this also distracts from their primary development work. If we could find 2-3 people dedicated to combing through, and responding to bugs -- even just to get them ready for more serious investigation by a core developer -- it would help this project greatly. It's hard to see an open bug count of 4k+ and not give up a little bit in one's heart. And yet, I have a feeling our _true_ bugload is much smaller, = if we winnow the chaff. =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJWgZh6AAoJEMFE2PTxn+YwDB8L/2OgK3ixA4FYop95n41uqnUW aDaYgvyq0yrD5MtDNLNDnfSsgzM+HbGqp1GeHI5M6w+PC9PdgWRqEgP9qCJopiVH UYmFjXd4AKgbS5f5ZP1wo6dFmJ+idi5KbGYddr78C4mKKSLNKFrCTzG89yTPVyB2 iNuy7SHPgMzP0WKY319uF0MJCqM92cXMpk/JONQ1/uL74kbYAXUi+liLmg+FJFIl f6m/Nm44HvnK3FPFDg4frsF2kwDhPIEKQpBqpNqt9g+M4yUTsD+ygZgA7T9d7k/G Im6bjHXtRPyweO6Qi4+iaGaD9pR8vUGC3tiePD/cRKoBVnNm9qjVxCCq0OD0Icqk YxKgEspsvDbXNFl9jmSvE6O2nhcRUwW0LsfO1XVk8uN2zTxpRs929uxP4Qi40emO avEJeYL37mTnPhMZzzXoWuonmeaPXl2DIgMczDKGJYWg5/eE9bGYoezQ45g3ZLqj Ldkg2fcwnTkYahTQDhtIO0FM/E409oTUgwwSFjPKpg== =T4hz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--