From: "John Wiegley" <johnw@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: lexical-binding is turned on in more use cases
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2020 13:10:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2v9ndguha.fsf@newartisans.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvtv2ysa6p.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 08 Mar 2020 19:41:44 -0400")
>>>>> "SM" == Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> THIS IS A MAJOR BACKWARD STEP FOR EMACS!!!!
SM> ;-)
>> Looking at the git log, it appears this change was made nearly a year ago.
SM> Indeed, it's a wonder you managed to survive with such a majorly broken
SM> Emacs for so long ;-)
I do hope we're taking Alan's concern seriously here, all joking aside. This
change pretty harshly violates the "principle of least surprise", and working
with lexical-scope still isn't the norm for most old school Emacs Lispers. I'm
not sure I wuold have ever discovered the solution to such a problem in my own
debugging, had I not chanced on this discussion thread.
What are we gaining, again, at the cost of this potential confusion?
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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-07 11:29 lexical-binding is turned on in more use cases Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 16:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 17:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 18:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 19:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-08 19:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 19:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-08 20:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 20:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-11 2:59 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-11 12:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 23:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 23:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-09 20:10 ` John Wiegley [this message]
2020-03-09 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-09 21:27 ` Drew Adams
2020-03-09 21:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-09 22:30 ` John Wiegley
2020-03-10 19:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 19:49 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-10 20:16 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 20:54 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-07 23:28 ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2020-03-10 20:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-10 21:02 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-10 21:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 21:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-11 3:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-10 21:14 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-10 21:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 23:41 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-11 1:36 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-03-11 2:02 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-13 0:46 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-03-11 3:06 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-11 12:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-13 2:32 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-11 2:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-11 22:39 ` John Wiegley
2020-03-09 20:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-09 22:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-10 18:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-10 19:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 20:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-10 20:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 21:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-11 3:06 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-08 19:39 ` Stefan Monnier
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