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[84.176.204.97]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q17-20020a1709064cd100b00781be3e7badsm3700839ejt.53.2022.11.20.00.08.23 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 20 Nov 2022 00:08:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 19 Nov 2022 22:51:15 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::62d; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x62d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:300234 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> Perhaps "shadow" or "shadowing-import" amount >> to the construct I was envisioning. I saw >> those terms only today, and I don't know what >> they mean. > > FWIW, I'd (passively) like to see this topic progress. > > I was thinking that the back & forth in this thread > was starting to be helpful. I'm sorry to see it > dropped (apparently). Maybe it's a hard slog, but > maybe it's a slog worth working through. Sorry, but no thanks from me. Why? I don't think there is anything to talk about. Or did you find out what Richard's plan is? Last I read was that it's not what Joao had in mind, at least, and that Richard is brainstorming. And, to be honest, the papal bulls concerning CL packages, in ignorance of one's own ignorance, the non-answers, etc.---I don't want to have to deal with that. > Now go DTRT! ;-) I do :-).