From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Loading" Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:29:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87obrzo8qy.fsf@gmx.de> <8762e75k1o.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87ipi76xmc.fsf@gmx.de> <87ipi6e0a1.fsf@gmx.de> <87zkbicg8r.fsf@gmx.de> <87obry5ba8.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1331825368 24287 80.91.229.3 (15 Mar 2012 15:29:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Albinus , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 15 16:29:25 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S8CcH-0006af-3S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:29:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42719 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8CcG-0003oi-FA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:29:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44115) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8Cc8-0003mC-9j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:29:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8Cc1-0007q8-Ts for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:29:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-fa0-f41.google.com ([209.85.161.41]:34720) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8Cc1-0007po-NL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: by faaq22 with SMTP id q22so668460faa.0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:29:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=XkYhA4+PNfs/G6rqw2jA9odqD/oNgHifDb8tU0R5/ag=; b=GnVrjOdwxU/GiGNdVdKZQUpRxc3ON9xeb44hll8IIn8j8fyoMnRSGb0aTlrl2v3eBt WZa24PYJba98pK+hivprenPc7dDlgkV7gfewJl7BIwmnRlfVtzS+0ImfDzD1LR8WNrj8 44wCWfl1bYfXR6rPw2WGapI+fJCJaMLiFCa5K0bLEdqPA59PLBKeFyZ3PRG5f7L/ozql dhnFbfiszvMD+EZtMZF0OeBbwXHrwmfWWOBctDtj4L8OxNLSbUm5lRF8zzRi0PVI99oZ iBhPpmwJlQ63KuWyMksweeHYzcioo+uSqPWUcGxeTCbNMXUQQd4s5eu8d6QH9PWss63O Ufdw== Original-Received: by 10.224.27.84 with SMTP id h20mr8248706qac.48.1331825346354; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ha3sm3890449qab.13.2012.03.15.08.29.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id CCA152C0E270; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:29:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87obry5ba8.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:55:11 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/24.0.94 (darwin) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkTh7VSLnu42Vd4aNJ5I3koPb9+Zd04Z/dUfgR4p2F5vs3csmZgzxJ6obx/b5dLPIxWj84w X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.161.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:149084 Archived-At: on Thu Mar 15 2012, Tassilo Horn wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >>> The modeline is designed to provide indications to the user. I >>> believe, it is the natural place for showing unfinished network >>> activities. >>> >>> If it cannot be a spinning char due to the permanent refresh, than it >>> might be some coloured text, as running processes show already. >> >> Yeah... but of course I'm looking at three modelines in my frame right >> now. The problem of having no central place to display global state >> is well known around here, though. Maybe just use the modeline of the >> leftmost window immediately above the minibuffer? > > Why is that a "global state"? I mean, the running process is associated > with a buffer (e.g., a tramp buffer visiting a remote file, or a gnus > article buffer that has spawned several download processes), so I'd > expect the process activity indicator in the mode line of exactly that > buffer, no? In this case, maybe. In the general case, there are processes with no visible buffer or any obvious association. -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com