From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Speed of keyboard macro execution? Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:50:08 -0800 Message-ID: References: <20151209163954.0cefcc7f@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87si3bcltu.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <20151209180343.5a67c0e7@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83r3iu9rvp.fsf@gnu.org> <20151210120051.6be8201f@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87k2omciy2.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <20151210123312.39c417c9@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83lh929omw.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2omta6x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d1ue9lns.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuzat7ot.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <837fkm9ire.fsf@gnu.org> <20151210151631.3b07c461@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87twnqrqgx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20151210154515.065891df@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449780631 28779 80.91.229.3 (10 Dec 2015 20:50:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Perry E. Metzger" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 10 21:50:24 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a78AR-0001oW-65 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:50:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44443 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a78AQ-0006Bn-FB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:50:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45815) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a78AN-0006Bd-9Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:50:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a78AM-0004jn-9w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:50:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232]:35545) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a78AG-0004jI-Aq; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:50:12 -0500 Original-Received: by padhk6 with SMTP id hk6so12912912pad.2; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:50:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=M165fYzzWbqOFPoyiPxR4urnyF49sYb1dCa/vNcnT0o=; b=h4D67TqdGI+TvbgtvgIXRMk44GCPs7arkrvr+gKhqJVte1XsnwxuZFqtdpIbWiShoC nOvJHy4TLOwTdkjSG/xeOTGsUvhROPd716PFA0ZJ7tGsLuaYh3miHlOEnKv2LOZsLJEG vWLmtEkYT6AyHCtykj3CMP76aoqOu//K5MDFwn704S/5aw2z4j6VXU50OA0uZ4omKLAu w1OScUEg7Ol1rA5CoZ7unL0QIoeCG43YWzt1DfP8ur4oJ5AM8kk20ao4b3oEcVPi0Jnd 20QFqlW5Zk5vXNM4wUNUFT846SzQR1NS9bJaiKjdEBWLr7eVW9Vs0/Wk+09RjEdLyHet iDbg== X-Received: by 10.66.159.131 with SMTP id xc3mr5813514pab.97.1449780611603; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:50:11 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p6sm20373400pfi.20.2015.12.10.12.50.10 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:50:10 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id DBD63114217AB; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:50:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151210154515.065891df@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> (Perry E. Metzger's message of "Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:45:15 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: "Perry E. Metzger" , David Kastrup , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196067 Archived-At: >>>>> Perry E Metzger writes: > However, this is how keyboard macros work -- they record what the user would > have typed -- and it would violate expectations for that to change. Precisely. If visual positioning influences what a person would type, it should influence the macros they record equally. So if one wants better consistency, it's up to the user to disable visual positioning -- rather than make the possibility of such macros unavailable to everyone. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2