From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? 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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 195sm6327651pfa.5.2016.03.08.09.21.22 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:21:22 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id C7F0C1358F979; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 09:21:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87io0w6g7j.fsf@red-bean.com> (Karl Fogel's message of "Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:18:40 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.92 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Karl Fogel , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201182 Archived-At: >>>>> Karl Fogel writes: > So the only remaining question is about where information should be stored > (and, if there is duplication, whether that duplication should be maintained > manually or automatically). The question of what the information looks like > is, I hope, already settled. Yes, I was only mentioning it for the sake of completeness. We have already accomplished the second bullet of option #2, and have no intention of changing that, as it does have a positive impact on our commit message quality. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2