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[76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 64sm89671654pfu.17.2016.11.30.13.44.34 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:44:34 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id D173146D4CC2; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:44:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <96a00b2f-4012-5e66-9d67-7644039600e2@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:06:11 -0800") Mail-Followup-To: Paul Eggert , Daniel Colascione , Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c05::241 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209838 Archived-At: >>>>> "PE" == Paul Eggert writes: PE> However, this is not simply an efficiency issue. Emacs currently does not PE> run on FreeBSD arm64 because of the unexec problem (Bug#24892), and it's PE> quite likely that the set of platforms where Emacs does not run will grow PE> as platforms change memory management techniques. We should not reject a PE> working fix merely because we hypothesize that there might be a better PE> improvement that someone might implement later. That's a good point, Paul, I hadn't thought of that. And the Docker issue, apparently. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2