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[2003:e0:b70e:9e00:1ca2:addb:0:3ba4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-3825490cbfcsm4818805f8f.40.2024.11.21.03.23.36 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 21 Nov 2024 03:23:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Christopher Dimech's message of "Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:05:27 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::332; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x332.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325541 Archived-At: Christopher Dimech writes: >> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 6:22 PM >> From: "Gerd M=C3=B6llmann" >> To: "Christopher Dimech" >> Cc: "Alan Mackenzie" , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Subject: Re: My resignation from Emacs development >> >> Christopher Dimech writes: >>=20 >> > One of the key principles of free software is that software should be >> > modifiable, and free to use in any context. Restricting how names are >> > used run counter to the ethos to empower users and developers, not to >> > limit or control their language or expressions. >>=20 >> Seriously? > > The whole thing is about freedom, not erecting some new bureaucracy to po= lice=20 > how people write their projects. With a bit of work, I think one could make a Monty Python sketch from that. "I want to use that function name." "What?" "I want to use that function name. I have the right to." "But it's already used for 20 years. No reasonable man would..." "Or woman..." "Where was I?" "I think you were finished." "I have the right to use that function name! I'm born free!" "From now on, I want you all to call me Loretta" :-)