From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Creating an empty file Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:49:28 +0000 Message-ID: References: <86bqkphiyj.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87odopr8ga.fsf@lrde.org> <87veixu2ep.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1169571009 7064 80.91.229.12 (23 Jan 2007 16:50:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 23 17:49:57 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H9OqI-0006n6-4s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:49:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H9OqH-0003Xc-MY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:49:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H9Oq6-0003WQ-GO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:49:42 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H9Oq4-0003W1-Nt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:49:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H9Oq4-0003Vt-Dn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:49:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1H9Oq3-0000EY-Cl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:49:39 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1H9Opr-00008a-BL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:49:27 +0100 Original-Received: from sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.223.202]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:49:27 +0100 Original-Received: from sdl.web by sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:49:27 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAElBMVEUAAAAAAP+LRRP0pGC+ vr7///+7mT1iAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMO DhglKe4AAAEsSURBVCjPbZNBboQwDEV/Cd4X9QJRThApmn0XYW+Jyf2v0m+HhqDBgiAe9rcTG7QH w/1Vn2Ar8gBb/ocywSN3qK9T3z4eFDB4eApocBpeBs1RSykoJd8gQcm8pGmHXFso3ajnmsqV0TnY DQkOfXUfN5NwaI7AWTVOyEhcu1aHmdWItHddUVUcUgUBCkitu8V6ditHVOVdqzl2EQ1ZVGTbdK0V 7cqn8vWzoU5Q/bF9Y/Y0cRU1xwkys5dJ+Dt6pBDWifcNQml8Gh2JVmPSoQzo7en0grswkxrUGYJ7 0hSxxAGr7ZMwYcHIzprpi7TENEE1xtiYxixRlCfPBsUUrwHD7uGIwATrbnODJcVrPpVn3hxiGloe m/S+z3CtuzUSMo83N4DPH+F0evwR3P4A2k+75838OKQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: No Gnus v0.6, Emacs/22.0.92.1 (2007-01-22), Fedora 6 gnu/linux Cancel-Lock: sha1:7Jkp8/fMRbExJ8VRe15AzlIkYbI= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:65413 Archived-At: On 2007-01-23, Jay Belanger said: > michael@cadilhac.name (Michaël Cadilhac) writes: > >> David Kastrup writes: >> >>> If I do >>> C-x C-f somefile.txt RET C-x C-s >>> in order to create and save an empty file, Emacs replies >>> >>> No changes need to be saved >>> >>> and does not actually save the file, even though saving the file would >>> change the state on disk. >> >> I can't reproduce it. > > I can, even with emacs -Q. > It seems natural, if possibly incorrect, behavior. I like this behavior. I prevent me from creating empty files. > If this is regarded as a bug, I would expect that an unchanged empty > file would be treated as a special case for C-xC-s. > > Jay -- Leo (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)