From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New maintainer Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:02:27 -0700 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <560CCEBA.9080607@online.de> <874miapdhs.fsf@openmailbox.org> <87pp0yktyx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <22029.59130.54156.957525@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87io6pnujl.fsf@red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443806515 25461 80.91.229.3 (2 Oct 2015 17:21:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 17:21:55 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 02 19:21:50 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi41m-0002WN-8i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 19:21:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33972 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi41l-0001r3-Lt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 13:21:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43327) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi3kB-0005hO-Kv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 13:03:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi3k7-0005Lf-Ai for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 13:03:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]:36265) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi3k7-0005LJ-69 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 13:03:35 -0400 Original-Received: by pablk4 with SMTP id lk4so110652483pab.3 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:03:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=tdkvytA7hJIeLGLHCJdfauLgih+DUm/62MnYbXnhL78=; b=MK10De3UASsQRjgzx+3cCIA3pQM+gHIgQwo7UzMkLfNGqBuvZuP8g1/uYvEjxNPg/5 y1YtK+L1nynhu2LHl2VLYRcKqSUWMAHElbiHVBoYSv1R9uJuPdmpUeeQy1DL53vWoB/h NiyIkc2PWZbnLW3obmJiOmzAnRu67mR83ET5uR46Gwg8vUD1Zz5PSte9nTXupdH338ou pnHR2MQO0LkfDjYSpt9DCev2dBPCt/wLYj44SSMVJJdV1yI6xqabSFUIWswY/z7k4Jy7 t0behBE8LRxJgGoZry97McxWFdiPwACtV57IuzKZCFtOR4z/XlxmFjLeDQvJvDBI73hv yMkw== X-Received: by 10.68.192.70 with SMTP id he6mr21271114pbc.157.1443805414431; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id be3sm12871619pbc.88.2015.10.02.10.03.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id A0653F0266B7; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:03:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87io6pnujl.fsf@red-bean.com> (Karl Fogel's message of "Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:45:34 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190727 Archived-At: >>>>> Karl Fogel writes: > An important question for John is how he would feel about RMS overriding > technical decisions -- that is, decisions John might feel are purely > technical -- for philosophical reasons. Can John live with that happening > occasionally? Because it surely would. It has happened before: for example, Bazaar vs. Git, and not allowing dynamic loading of libraries. Yet both of these positions changed over time. I can't think of a "political over technical" decision right now that bothers me; and the fact that those that did finally resolved themselves, gives me faith in being able to work with the FSF. So yes, I can live with it happening occasionally. I further think that working alongside Eli would be nice, if he's up for it. Having an active co-maintainer would relieve some of the time pressure of this position, since I can't give equal focus every week. John