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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262084 Archived-At: On 29/12/2020 11:34 +0200, Juri Linkov wrote: > Such changes of keybindings are not something new: in 2011 we changed > 'C-s M-y' from 'isearch-yank-kill' to 'isearch-yank-pop', But this continued to work for the most frequent case of yanking last kill? > and also in 2011 changed 'C-s C-y' from 'isearch-yank-line' to > 'isearch-yank-kill' that was a more fundamental change. In Emacs 27 there was also change in C-M-w, and it's still painful :-) --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- 'C-M-w' in isearch changed from 'isearch-del-char' to the new function 'isearch-yank-symbol-or-char'. 'isearch-del-char' is now bound to 'C-M-d'. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > Of course, if after trying 'C-s C-y', you'd still prefer the old 'C-s M-y', > we could revert this change, but this would be a step backwards. The new workflow is "C-s C-y M-y M-y...", the old one is "C-s M-y M-y...". If we could make the first M-y just insert the last kill, then both workflows can live together, no? It's just the prompt after C-s M-y which annoys me currently. Filipp