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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:327661 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann >> Cc: eller.helmut@gmail.com, pipcet@protonmail.com, spd@toadstyle.org, >> emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2025 10:02:07 +0100 >>=20 >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>=20 >> > Why does time matter? A profile shows the percentage of the samples >> > that we found ourselves in every function. Time is never of any >> > importance, AFAIU. That's why the frequency of SIGPROF does not >> > matter very much, except for very low percent values. IOW, the >> > frequency of SIGPROF can explain why we miss some functions, but >> > that's all. >>=20 >> Well, when I read "42% so-and-so" in the profile result, I always read >> that as "42% of the time spent in so-and-so". > > But that's not an accurate interpretation, is it? My interpretation > of 42% is "we found 42% of samples to be inside the function > so-and-so." Strictly speaking it's not accurate, but practically it is. But be that as it may, I just wanted to plant that thought.