From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leon Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Icon update Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:41:14 +0100 Message-ID: References: <2014.1143413876@olgas.newt.com> <2055.1143413986@olgas.newt.com> <858xqvek7c.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4428D8BB.8050701@swipnet.se> <442A5D49.1000302@swipnet.se> <442B8350.3050902@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1143751266 9605 80.91.229.2 (30 Mar 2006 20:41:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 30 22:41:06 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FP3wq-0004S8-VN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:40:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FP3wq-0006i5-Gb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:40:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FP3wO-0006Oo-5x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:40:24 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FP3wL-0006NF-IZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:40:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FP3wL-0006Mk-6G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:40:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FP3yZ-0004fZ-Si for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:42:40 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FP3vy-0004HG-AE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:40:00 +0200 Original-Received: from sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.223.202]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:39:58 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:39:58 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 44 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEAAAAAUCAMAAAAKqMsNAAAAwFBMVEUAAgAFCAQHCgYQEg8W GBUZGxgeHx0jJCInKCYsLSsxMzA2ODU9PjxERUNHSUZUVVNYWlddXlxgYV9hY2BmaGVqbGlucG1y dHF1d3R4end6fHl/gX6Bg4CGiIWMjouRk5CWmJWbnZqeoJ2ho6CjpaKnqaapq6isrquytLG3uba9 v7zBw8DGyMXIysfO0M3R1NDV19PX2dbb3dre4Nzg4t/j5eHm6OXq7Ont7+vu8O3y9PH2+fX5+/j7 /fr8//v+//yWD+MvAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9YC GgMgA0McekgAAAE/SURBVDjLpZOJboJAFEUnxNrWSFun2rIURIlLqUEoFcs4N+///6rgOhjcygmQ TIDDffMejBSwopth6sLV6wkQz2smAGoJUteRRIljFfT/IbDFQ0iJbukm5x/+7YKfz1jL4AsY8OIr asHkpSwArA5yFu/E04uCgLdYQ6oCkGwGC0mwp9CTi5+fGYPnsiCX3ktHkGhm1B5dLgDoHgTp2Jvn U9AeTgm+Tui97h8UXyV+93kJfCdYmU9BymdAWpQuss25ZahpjB0OW8mwSwDeFsDAx3qMiosyT0BW QlYIAuYvY68jTswhyih3tgK8Mdcdhif7tlKQ6t8KfrdJ0Hk8VquMGiXcigR2q1jJSXW3luORSqIm 2Aq+mxFR1J3RFTtwCBqZZkszzEkuQNgzrX52xfCT0p2QrxkUApzbgzOTuHntD1OuGlUu3YXdAAAA AElFTkSuQmCC User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0VGOxsFC+DLD8WkN1MuT8GOQHm4= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:52230 Archived-At: "Jan D." writes: > Leon wrote: >> Stefan Monnier writes: >> >>>> However one of the icon (diropen.xpm) should use the gnome file >>>> manager's icon which is named file-manager.png in the sense that dired >>>> is the file manger in emacs. Otherwise emacs tool-bar looks really >>>> odd. Have a look at this. >>> I'm not trained in the use of toolbars, so could you explain what's odd >>> about it? >>> >>> >>> Stefan >> Hi Stefan, >> The diropen icon won't change at all for any gnome-icon-theme since >> there is no counterpart. This gives the tool-bar an inconsistent >> look. > > For example, some themes use bigger icons. But since the stock item > gtk-directory isn't available, the standard icon distributed with > emacs is used, so it looks odd. Also, if some theme has some visual > property (like high contrast), the diropen icon will not follow this > theme. > > I've attached some screenshots of these situations. I think before we > release this we need to find stock items for everything. In Info mode > there are also icons that don't have any stock definition, so arrows > may look differently. > > Jan D. > > Thank you for explaining this. Handling icons is more complicated in emacs than in anything else. Maybe some gtk programmers can point out a solution or maybe we can create a set of universal icons like nvu and openoffice. We can also publish a guideline of creating icons for emacs so that package writers can follow. And in the end emacs will have a consistent look! -- Leon