From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New maintainer Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 15:21:53 -0700 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <560CCEBA.9080607@online.de> <874miapdhs.fsf@openmailbox.org> <8737xuuw2y.fsf@rabkins.net> <87lhbmkrle.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444083764 24750 80.91.229.3 (5 Oct 2015 22:22:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 22:22:44 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 06 00:22:34 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjE9P-0000ue-Rk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2015 00:22:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48001 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjE9P-0004AY-2a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:22:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53461) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjE9B-000499-IZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:22:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjE97-0005nz-M4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:22:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::236]:33300) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjE97-0005nn-FQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:22:13 -0400 Original-Received: by pacex6 with SMTP id ex6so188842575pac.0 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2015 15:22:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=s4pD9GI0WUGu9f6GheqAgqvFzE/AQBfRcsop/u4JgFo=; b=ZGyq+ck3ctl1bbm8/WoRJTNsSXPpXaeRmopCSP2OqsZ2nO7awyEXIl3Q0AftSixDlj lv9Shx5ui12jfZ70a1UperPmI7mIwK9CLBaKbG5GBk14UOJKRRA1ykBplRsaKz5qGFUa C4OeBLPhMNW2tw5wFP1AreLMoFELJEvQJXz1IIOKifXt+0ZPb6h6+svlzda6OPL1d2XO 7j7ouTEZGxtXriyFWcvTEpKbSLLd6ks8LX7MRIL9hyqX4ZsoVh4yR2sbrS5tRpAhXg4o 8kPNqv51yTdjFAre6BLHRwlQ8SrdXeV54lmmWKKmvRe2jod5kpk88m9WBys7n44zCate pXuQ== X-Received: by 10.68.195.3 with SMTP id ia3mr42311639pbc.106.1444083732566; Mon, 05 Oct 2015 15:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id po4sm29467930pbb.64.2015.10.05.15.22.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Oct 2015 15:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id D3EB1F0829FA; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 15:22:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (David Reitter's message of "Mon, 5 Oct 2015 17:21:01 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190980 Archived-At: >>>>> David Reitter writes: > Do you consider downstream projects a legitimate way of providing that > experience on the basis of GPL principles without diluting the overall > mission of the FSF and the GNU project? Can you give an example? I don't fully understand your question. > By providing support and stability, the upstream project (Emacs) can foster > an ecosystem that is ultimately a good advertisement to free software. > Downstream projects can reach a wider audience than the GNU-only system can, > and they can incorporate libraries and functionalities that the upstream > project is unwilling to adopt for philosophical reasons. With the right > relationship to these projects, some improvements can also be ported back > and thus benefit everybody. Sounds nice in principle, but an example would help me to be clear on what that might look like in practice. John