From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Speed of keyboard macro execution? Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:18:58 -0800 Message-ID: References: <20151209163954.0cefcc7f@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87si3bcltu.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <20151209180343.5a67c0e7@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83r3iu9rvp.fsf@gnu.org> <20151210120051.6be8201f@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87k2omciy2.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <20151210123312.39c417c9@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83lh929omw.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2omta6x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d1ue9lns.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuzat7ot.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <837fkm9ire.fsf@gnu.org> <20151210151631.3b07c461@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449778793 31597 80.91.229.3 (10 Dec 2015 20:19:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , David Kastrup , deng@randomsample.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Perry E. Metzger" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 10 21:19:45 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a77gg-00048o-Ge for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:19:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44320 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a77ga-00037z-Li for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:19:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38757) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a77gC-0002z6-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:19:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a77gB-0004Yn-0J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:19:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22a]:35181) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a77g5-0004Xt-Rx; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:19:01 -0500 Original-Received: by padhk6 with SMTP id hk6so12562778pad.2; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:19:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=Lj77g5/9ASwDXpYzPKH/PjeJ9G0xEkfPT+B7yysh9PY=; b=UF4TNGrUb5aZLiinuk4cuRLWEXrNVhd5s/qfzF9VTpErNCeiKfXbpxPM37fuoNjw89 i2Q6t1n+l9sY1w6nvjb+3MemamlrvaHifvh7BBLAo3eQxHhy8QksS9svvd1ZikFpZRLm WNZItA1MSMF7/gA+m3GdiHCderQTcFt5m7MozpxGC5eNIPHFj4AoI9oU44jJa1bAmhx+ iY107FFaDj/19IhC6A+QlGwaxCRuJePsYw8YJWq/aUNZeOECIKaF/XbcDbq4d8zucSAX ImhArccNU8XZmkGV+9ieHLI3wV9Uu1fORtk4YMQ1Sq6U7FmbiIOC9Odmbr0HF01W32dY 3xXQ== X-Received: by 10.66.159.226 with SMTP id xf2mr19414194pab.23.1449778741251; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:19:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id uz4sm20621971pac.39.2015.12.10.12.19.00 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:19:00 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id A744111421074; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:18:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151210151631.3b07c461@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> (Perry E. Metzger's message of "Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:16:31 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: "Perry E. Metzger" , Eli Zaretskii , David Kastrup , deng@randomsample.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196060 Archived-At: >>>>> Perry E Metzger writes: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 22:00:05 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> > From: David Kastrup >> > So I think it would make excellent sense to disable visual >> > positioning modes while recording and replaying keyboard macros. >> >> No, I think you are wrong. Think C-n and C-p again. Recording a macro has the value that it does what the user would have done, just automated. If you disable visual positioning, then in many cases it no longer does what I would have done manually. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2