From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Sending automatic crash reports to the FSF (was: Crash recovery strategies) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 15:33:40 -0800 Message-ID: References: <83mvu1x6t3.fsf@gnu.org> <5679DC83.70405@cs.ucla.edu> <83oadhp2mj.fsf@gnu.org> <567AD556.6020202@cs.ucla.edu> <567AD766.3060608@dancol.org> <567B5DAB.2000900@cs.ucla.edu> <83fuyromig.fsf@gnu.org> <567C25B1.3020101@dancol.org> <56892FD6.8040708@dancol.org> <568988EE.3010205@dancol.org> <56899278.9000007@dancol.org> <56899EAC.1030408@dancol.org> <5689ACFC.5050407@cs.ucla.edu> <5689AEE8.7030707@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451864042 3036 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2016 23:34:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 23:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert , Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 04 00:33:55 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aFs9q-0003O1-TU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 00:33:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43232 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFs9q-000573-30 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 18:33:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40792) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFs9k-0004zW-BZ for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 18:33:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFs9h-0000G4-5m for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 18:33:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d]:33501) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFs9h-0000G0-0H; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 18:33:45 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id cy9so187650508pac.0; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 15:33:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=8Lsj+rhMW61WU0cfmmokUfSmJEBQtNU7q28/OkL/6xI=; b=A58jQuVL8ktOxYQjI/ydIDz+rPyXX0z3k6DEcVwZlm1LIqS5EHnTcMydSrK3GSTh5a yGqh/dmv8bZUDtL84AJ9WG6PVJ0B6NzY9RX14RFnNsG+82uvpp1uEJfSj+CMs8eVtRiO JBa7yNawKpRCCgqLHZlVEg3TJmLw6ZK/wkVhHmmvB7A/jRrCdsXHEbdEA0mLoe8Ma6Jy pA1yKVicBuU4WcwxtSYPPN7XIxRG0qqnGeEOwnlYcX+9u+rlKTW80ag6GUtrs7YbiJii LwNv8CATTs6pyk2t7e9z1vmoyAx0+R75stAekxzYyM1nGjdG5CCikRYwqNR/4gbNEr1k pWjw== X-Received: by 10.66.251.3 with SMTP id zg3mr123032861pac.145.1451864024483; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 15:33:44 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e14sm121436002pap.24.2016.01.03.15.33.43 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Jan 2016 15:33:43 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 021011200FF45; Sun, 3 Jan 2016 15:33:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5689AEE8.7030707@dancol.org> (Daniel Colascione's message of "Sun, 3 Jan 2016 15:29:44 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Colascione , Paul Eggert , Eli Zaretskii , Emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197530 Archived-At: >>>>> Daniel Colascione writes: > More generally, how do we feel about automatically sending crash reports to > the FSF? Of course, we'd send reports stripped of personally identifiable > information, as is standard practice. This is a really good question. The number of users we have, compared to the number of people able to field such reports, is what makes me wary. Perhaps we could have a separate mailing list for such reports, without turning them into bugs automatically, just to keep us abreast of possible recurring patterns. It might even become a useful way to gather some statistics. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2