From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pankaj Jangid Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again. 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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256458 Archived-At: On Sat, Sep 26 2020, James Lu wrote: > I am a new (2020 started) Emacs user. This is evident from your email. Perhaps you should read about "the GNU project" > Sell customer support packages, so 1) You can focus on gaining users = > giving more users computer user freedom and user empowerment. 2) You can > better understand the problems with Emacs' documentation and user interface > because people will email you support questions on them, incentivizing you > to reduce how many support queries are needed. > User experience testing. a la Don't Make Me Think by Steve Krug. > Path dependence-- sequence points matter. > https://kwokchain.com/2020/06/19/why-figma-wins/ Emacs Inc. ;-)