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[79.227.169.147]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l27-20020a170906079b00b0073022b796a7sm1916465ejc.93.2022.11.12.05.00.10 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 12 Nov 2022 05:00:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87zgcw5y7c.fsf@gmail.com> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Jo=C3=A3o_T=C3=A1vor?= =?utf-8?Q?a=22's?= message of "Sat, 12 Nov 2022 09:17:11 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::631; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x631.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299642 Archived-At: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora writes: > You can make some tests. If one goes boom, then we'll know for sure. > If none go boom, well, it's a good indication, but it's very hard to > prove a negative. I mean, can you really prove Emacs didn't cause the > Hindeburg?? Now that you say it, I think it blew up Northstream :-). Nah, I'd rather procrastinate. >> (c) I might have an idea how do things differently to achieve >> backwards-compatibility. To what extent that works, or if it works at >> all, I also don't know, and likely won't find out any time soon. >> >>> But even if the read logic didn't do that, and considered the two >>> systems at once, I'm still not sure there would be any ambiguity. >> >> From my point of view, the gist of the matter is >> backwards-compatibility. That's the pain part. > > To be honest, I don't think you should focus effort on this. Just > declare shorthands out of bounds when CL packages are used, and then go > move on with your project. I could and maybe I would, but I've lost interest. Maybe you've encountered that yourself, as a programmer? You suddenly realize at some point that the interesting part of a project is over, and all what follows will be boring? That's kind of where I am.