From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: use-package documentation Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 11:23:35 -0800 Message-ID: References: <83bknl6zan.fsf@gnu.org> <835ydq4urv.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16181"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (darwin) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 20:24:49 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pD9NZ-0003xN-1P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 20:24:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pD9Mj-0001H4-4m; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 14:23:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pD9Mh-0001GT-D3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 14:23:55 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pD9Mh-0004KY-3b; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 14:23:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=rOIzqGrjw87LmZbxcJTcBuvMwsliZ1+M0QKcMnnX64Y=; b=nin+KvJ1bfZOyieuvA8N 3fDvMkzpF0oIzRmPkom9lIaa/IcUEi5Kw3xmcCAmSiZ2Ka6hAF/VR/8aqBMsv1uJbZKXSqEE661Ra 2jFMaR0o7R3la5q33yfgiq5Af4wPn08l3IKs3yFmgiXIflL/9ScGstLiwCNQu9AEP7Nv+N9Z4y+Vz HoyRoJ0D402/2TN3cqsL9D6QalGCjDMKtfJ2Yl4z39ET3pBH2xgS0PXjzQcgK8Pfh3zp0uLzv1108 afCwip53FhtFyMZIB88GPiAkdIW4FpbKGO//JSl7QY1Ztd7/h2kyIpYuzD7kjrDXUHCpFVh6Hw+ny aKRfOqPNheWOyQ==; Original-Received: from auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.228]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pD9MU-0006Cp-RC; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 14:23:44 -0500 Original-Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE8827C0054; Wed, 4 Jan 2023 14:23:42 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 04 Jan 2023 14:23:42 -0500 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrjeeigdduvdegucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhephffvvefujgffkfhffgggtgesthdtredttdertdenucfhrhhomhepfdflohhh nhcuhghivghglhgvhidfuceojhhohhhnfiesghhnuhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvg hrnheptddtgfehvdekueejfeeuveejuefggfduveekleelheehleejleevfeelgeehteeh necuffhomhgrihhnpehnvgifrghrthhishgrnhhsrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuih iivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhohhhnfidomhgvshhmthhprghu thhhphgvrhhsohhnrghlihhthidqieekjeektdelgeegqddujeejheefkeduiedqjhhohh hnfieppehgnhhurdhorhhgsehnvgifrghrthhishgrnhhsrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ib64945b7:Fastmail Original-Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 4 Jan 2023 14:23:41 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <835ydq4urv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 01 Jan 2023 08:46:12 +0200") Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302230 Archived-At: >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: EZ> And I don't really understand the urge to have it in the ELisp manual: a EZ> cross-reference to another manual is as easy to follow as a EZ> cross-reference to another node within the same manual. In many cases the EZ> reader will not even be aware he or she is reading a different manual. So EZ> what problem do we want to solve by placing the use-package stuff in the EZ> ELisp manual? To me it would feel strange to have it in the Elisp manual, since it's not targeted at Emacs Lisp developers, but rather users. It seems to me that it should be in a separate manual that is linked to from the Emacs user manual. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2