From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mathias Dahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: thumbs.el and transparency Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:11:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1138543053.170368.10389.nullmailer@totoz-hurd.gnu-rox.org> <17373.8715.845697.795914@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138572772 10166 80.91.229.2 (29 Jan 2006 22:12:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 29 23:12:52 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F3Kmp-0008ON-Ur for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:12:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F3Kpk-0005ei-Nt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:15:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F3KpP-0005dR-P5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:15:23 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F3KpN-0005YL-6P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:15:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F3KpN-0005Xz-0P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:15:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F3KnZ-0000D7-1e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:13:29 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1F3Klt-0008A4-O7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:11:46 +0100 Original-Received: from 1-1-3-38a.gml.gbg.bostream.se ([82.182.110.147]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:11:45 +0100 Original-Received: from brakjoller by 1-1-3-38a.gml.gbg.bostream.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:11:45 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 1-1-3-38a.gml.gbg.bostream.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:iZhuy0Y/tmNOT6REz3c4G5ATmbI= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49715 Archived-At: Nick Roberts writes: > > That is also my point of view. Can these two modes be "merged" > > together ? That would, at least, solve two of our problems. > > Clearly merging them together would solve the problem. The hard > part is working out how to do it and finding someone to invest the > time. As I explained earlier, I have tried to put as many features of thumbs into tumme, as per Richard's request, so that it should be able to replace it. From a feature-perspective, that is, being able to do X or Y, it is almost complete. What differs, or is missing, is better usability, and I hope I have started cover that with the example additions/changes I posted earlier. I think we should wait until people have tested and commented on them before we discuss this merge further. One more thing: yes, we could do this the other way around, merging tumme stuff into thumbs, but in my opinion that would take more time to do. Of course, I am biased. /Mathias