From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The emacs_backtrace "feature" Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:58:46 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83lig3yaci.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348221543 6235 80.91.229.3 (21 Sep 2012 09:59:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 21 11:59:07 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TF00o-0005bl-2H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:59:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44122 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TF00j-0000r4-Ni for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:59:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46080) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TF00d-0000od-Va for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:58:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TF00c-0006Mc-VR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:58:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:56524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TF00W-0006Kn-5I; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:58:48 -0400 Original-Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3XNVd26xqVz3hhjL; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:58:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: MmcMuEf6KL8X/m+L1jKaPLSEz+4T99wkNVkC1d64a3c= Original-Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-127-217.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.127.217]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3XNVd26c86zbbjF; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:58:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 90714CA2A5; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:58:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Yow: I'm continually AMAZED at th'breathtaking effects of WIND EROSION!! In-Reply-To: <83lig3yaci.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:49:17 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Received-From: 212.18.0.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:153428 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > As nice as this looks, it has several disadvantages: > > . Many real-life backtraces are long and quickly scroll off the > screen. That's not a real problem. The output of programs that are started from the desktop is typically redirected to a file, so nothing gets lost. > . The backtrace is written to the standard error file handle. Is > that handle always guaranteed to be available and connected to a > screen or a disk file that the user can find afterwards? See above. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different."