From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding a line to the splash screen with the guided tour's URL Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:36:31 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87irc0e4h6.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176550601 32218 80.91.229.12 (14 Apr 2007 11:36:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 11:36:41 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 14 13:36:34 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HcgYP-000445-Ph for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:36:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hcgcm-0006J7-Qo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:41:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HcgcL-0004xW-3v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:40:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HcgcJ-0004ru-EW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:40:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HcgcJ-0004r7-6y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:40:31 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HcgXv-0003DO-3c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:35:59 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HcgXm-0008T5-T1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:35:51 +0200 Original-Received: from sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.223.202]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:35:50 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:35:50 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAG1BMVEUAAAA9Cgm3Hx1WWFWA gn+WmJWsrqv4+vcCAwCRl2MkAAAAAXRSTlMAQObYZgAAAAFiS0dEAIgFHUgAAAAJcEhZcwAAAYoA AAGKATOXMFgAAAAHdElNRQfXAQwDNR+ZJmElAAABIklEQVQoz22SPW+DQAyGWUq65qasd9PNUSX4 AZHK2C1rJy5jpDS4IwRVup9dn7GNafpKIPPgzztXFSujqq1eM2n8h22oMkvxI/i9C97kRfMRUN55 dS3BrsAwBXUtMLAO4lryh8kTjOxKpQNniNxAgZOEe4bZwsDTFhKdqZRLNII4OQNHhEuq/RMkm6Cj TnnEA/fk0BorcYn5qA3oaeAxbaBOLrX+9G48NZ2Fzc2tzDM8Q+tMypEOqYHh8mAWaaK3U/cDMOT5 aMZMABgPXc7zPMs1A8DXO756GFJ/4fMEq47hTsAdn5avoxZ4ywl0c2w4Flu2Ybeyb3S+EqxX2DYA H8veJGEDTnHnrXvRaPyt+2kSfK6rfBZ2tUtfP/mR+pR6sX8BUZ/cDV7tvkoAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: No Gnus v0.6, Emacs/23.0.0.10 (2007-04-11), Fedora 6 gnu/linux Cancel-Lock: sha1:0Phpayf52zcscmJrIWgpGp6+Obs= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:69433 Archived-At: ----- Jason Spiro (2007-04-13) wrote:----- > > that URL will be up for an equivalent period of time. >> >> We could probably put a link to "online documentation and tutorials" that >> points to http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs and then add a link to >> stuff.mit.edu there. >> > That's fair, but IMHO the guided tour is the best introduction to > Emacs available on the entire Internet and so there should be a line > advertising it on the splash screen, just as there is a line > advertising the, um, keyboard tutorial. :) This will encourage > people to look at it, not just at the built-in tutorial. As Philippe > wrote at [1], "I need effectiveness, *not* mere efficiency. I was > scared by the official emacs tutorial, which starts spitting out > bunches of keyboard sequences without apparent meaning." A line on > the splash screen will encourage people to look at the guided tour, > not the C-h t tutorial, first. I also feel that document is the best for beginners and it will be nice to put in a noticeable place. -- Leo (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)